Ardi: The Discovery Show

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MisterE

Trad climber
Canoga Bark! CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 12, 2009 - 02:06am PT
I liked the stewardship plug at the end>

It seems a little anti-climactic that bipedal gathering was the key.

Ummm, yeah - isn't that pretty self-evident?

Pretty cool presentation though.
Porkchop_express

Trad climber
Currently in San Diego
Oct 12, 2009 - 03:01am PT
Yeah I'm watching it now. They will be talking about this for years and there will be a lot more theories to discuss that may be a bit more interesting.
ShibbyShane

Trad climber
Sacramento, Ca
Oct 12, 2009 - 04:34am PT
I actually thought the "Understanding Ardi" segment that aired after the first two-hour segment was more informative and interesting. Although the interview format gets annoying after a while as they don't really follow trains of thought to their conclusion, just sorta skim over the surface.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 12, 2009 - 10:05am PT
can I see it online or elsewhere?
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Redlands
Oct 12, 2009 - 10:30am PT
Interesting, but a little less than I was hoping for somehow. Seems like you could have gotten just as much info from a short print article. The soft tissue modeler guy's work was pretty impressive.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 12, 2009 - 11:24am PT
"bipedal gathering was the key."
Does that mean that seagulls are the top dog?
jstan

climber
Oct 12, 2009 - 11:26am PT
http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/2009/1001sp_ardi.shtml

In this source you find the evaluation that the line of chimps and apes has evolved during the past four million years more than have the hominids. The hominid body scheme has remained quite “primitive”. Apparently studies of mutation rates indicate the split came six to seven million years ago and Ardi’s proximity to that age suggests the common ancestor was more hominin-like than chimp-like. Apparently bone fragments from that age are too fragmentary to gve additional information.

Today’s climbers may begin to redress our primitive state of body development provided only that we do not develop a bony hook-like protuberance. That would be an evolutionary dead end.
john hansen

climber
Oct 12, 2009 - 12:11pm PT

Was that Kuan doing the virtual climbing? I think they even mentioned her name..
GOclimb

Trad climber
Boston, MA
Oct 12, 2009 - 12:31pm PT
I thought it was okay. Focused an awful lot on how hard the science was to accomplish. Which is interesting, but not, in the end, terribly enlightening.

GO
kuan

Sport climber
CA
Oct 12, 2009 - 01:36pm PT
I've *have* been climbing in the gym a bunch since my partner is out of town.

Pulling on plastic = virtual climbing.


:)
hooblie

climber
Oct 12, 2009 - 04:09pm PT
psyched to learn that the whole adaptive advantage of bipedalism was improved access to the gene pool.
chicks dig monkeys that acquire stuff and demonstrate a knack for totin' it around.








































Phil_B

Social climber
Hercules, CA
Oct 16, 2009 - 12:49am PT
watching it now. Finding it interesting.

Science is way cool.
bhilden

Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
Oct 16, 2009 - 02:55am PT
That one scientist in the show with the glasses and grey goatee looked a lot like Royal Robbins!

Bruce
Mighty Hiker

Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
Oct 16, 2009 - 03:02am PT
Today’s climbers may begin to redress our primitive state of body development provided only that we do not develop a bony hook-like protuberance. That would be an evolutionary dead end.
Some people around here are quite fond of hooking. Although not necessarily with their noses.

Good article summarizing this at http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/02/science/02fossil.html?scp=7&sq=ardi&st=cse
cintune

climber
the Moon and Antarctica
Oct 16, 2009 - 08:28am PT
Here's a good series of blog entries that goes into some detail about the physiology, and climbing abilities particularly.


http://zinjanthropus.wordpress.com/2009/10/02/climbing-on-the-branches-of-the-family-tree-the-hands-of-ardipithecus-ramidus/
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