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The Dude
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Truckee, CA
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Jun 20, 2005 - 01:38am PT
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Some dude was moter-drillin on lead on tuesday 6/14 left of Sinbad-Herbert. Anybody know what the route is?
cheers
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Jun 20, 2005 - 09:25am PT
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I don’t really deserve any credit. Chris did all the hard work and took all the chances drilling on lead with a heavy drill. I was simply happy to tag along and grab second ascents. Both routes are moderate and a hell of a lot of fun! Nice exposure, fun moves and even a cool top out.
The proportions in Chris’ drawing seem just a bit wacky to me. This might be helpful.
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Tripod? Swellguy? Halfwit? Smegma?
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Calyfucinphornya
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Jun 20, 2005 - 11:27am PT
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I'm pretty sure the left route is an old one that started on the the right side of the main wall and traversed around and then up. It looks like your left route joins it at half way. I even have the original Climbinbg or Rock and Ice that details it somewhere(back in the day when any new routes were listed by area in the mags). It was rated 11.c.and raved about by the FA's Unfortunately there has never been a topo that accurately shows all the routes on Dear John old or new, and I think this misleads as to what has been done. I was hoping that the Supertopo guide would correct that , but it didn't.
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addiroid
Big Wall climber
Long Beach, CA
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Jun 20, 2005 - 11:33am PT
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"Nice to see new routes going up that are not all 12+ or something."
Ok. Give it 25 years and these will be uprated to 12+ and the Steck-Salathe will be rated 5.13.
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Jun 20, 2005 - 11:35am PT
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re. "It looks like your left route joins it at half way."
You're talking about a third pitch of "Drug Crazed". It's possible that it does join it and share some terrain but that junction would definitely be much higher than half way up this new line. I actually think that we're farther right than the line you're refering to almost if not all the way to the top. I'm not sure. Chris talked to a few people trying to sort it out. He'd know better than I. It's made complicated by the fact that if there is any shared terrain near the top, its a stretch of "Drug Crazed" that is never climbed. Dirt and heavy lichen all the way to the top.
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Tripod? Swellguy? Halfwit? Smegma?
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Calyfucinphornya
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Jun 21, 2005 - 01:40am PT
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I was trying to find the old article tonight, but to no avail. It was from an old basecamp or something and was a short narrative report on the FA of the arete route. I have looked at where it was supposed to go more than once and often wondered why they thought it was the best route on the crag (at the time) as it seemed dirty and unprotected? Perhaps they were infact refering to the continuation of Drug Crazed after the ledge? This may make more sense as it is brilliant and 11+. Though I think from the ground to the anchor in one (as it ought to be led)is 5.12 for sure.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Jul 11, 2006 - 05:02pm PT
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THought I'd dredge this one up to have a look at this summer.
Couple of questions: Any more thoughts on the grades? Harder than .10a and .10b?
Also, David's copy of the topo looks like a red X. Can we get that posted?
Finally, what was the powerdrill being used on left of Sinbad Herbert? Was it actually right, on the Eunuch?
And has anybody ever done For Real Crack? Is it worth doing or does it suck? Doesn't matter, I'm doing it anyway.
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Johns_dog
Social climber
Sacramento, CA
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Jul 11, 2006 - 05:32pm PT
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Check out the crux bolt on Air Waves. It is not at all flush with the rock. You can see all of the blue compression sleeve.
Safe?
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David
Trad climber
San Rafael, CA
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Jul 11, 2006 - 06:11pm PT
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Sorry, changed servers recently and I lost a bunch of miscellaneous stuff. Here's the topo that I had posted above.
http://www.safanda.com/misc/airwaves-airtime.pdf
Johns_dog, are you sure it was the crux bolt? When Chris and I first climbed this there was a longer run out section of easy dike hiking in the middle of the route. Chris later decided to add a bolt to this section. When I climbed it last I noticed that this bolt was not flush. Perhaps there are now two bolts that could use help.
I remember Chris struggling with the drill that he had borrowed. Took forever to drill until he realized it was set in "reverse". :)
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Petch
climber
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Jul 12, 2006 - 12:45am PT
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Mr. Inside,
The power drilling was to the right of sinbad/herbert. It's called crown royal. It's rated 10+, has 8 or 9 bolts with one knob tie off, and it's about '170 long. It goes to the same anchors as sinbad.
For Real crack is worth doing. The last pitch that links up with surrealistic isn't the best, but it's short.
have fun
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Jul 12, 2006 - 03:56pm PT
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Thanks Petch. I thought that bolted line to the right of Sinbad (about 30-40 feet) was the Eunuch. Maybe I just had bad beta. Starts up to a couple bolts, pulls roof, then keeps going to SH anchors? I'll have to check it out.
See you in the bar!
Dave
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Jul 17, 2006 - 12:42pm PT
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Well, I was going to post in the Routes descriptions, but For Real Crack isn't in there.
It was worth doing. A little funky, but also a little adventurous. You never really have to stuff yourself inside the wide crack. Good times.
I also did Sinbad-Herbert and Crown Royal. Those are both quality climbs. They are still a little green, but I see SH getting regular traffic, and it is noticeably cleaner than CR. So a few more ascents and both should be pretty good.
Also suprisingly fun was the direct start to the Farce. Start below the boulder, not above, in the crack and it's probably .10a. Finish on Noviciate's Nightmare, which is a really fun .9 roof problem. Glad I did that one too.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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Jun 30, 2011 - 11:53am PT
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Wow, blast from the past here!
So I finally got around to doing Airtime and Airwaves yesterday, five years later, hah!
Airwaves is of middling quality with one very tough crux, felt harder than .10b. The .10a wild traverse high was pretty cool.
Airtime is of good quality, with the real star of the show being that upper .9 arete climbing on that skinny rib of the Dear John prow.
Regarding that .9 arete being climbed before... it is shown as the final pitch to Stone Cold, Drug Crazed and that other Drug .11 in the 1986 white Tahoe guide.
All that said, these routes are pretty dirty, including the upper arete. Both suffer from a licheny crust, and I did snap off 2 dike pieces, and a small bit of the crux knob on Airwaves. If they got more traffic they would clean up, but without inclusion in a guidebook they are destined for obscurity. Too bad, Airwaves is pretty rad for Leap .10a.
Oh yeah and For Real Crack? It is For Real Yo.
Finally, saw a mountian lion in the talus halfway between the lower buttress and the boulders yesterday. Sweet!
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Ed H
Trad climber
Santa Rosa, CA
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Jun 10, 2014 - 10:18am PT
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Bump for Leap beta.
Airtime 10a and Crown Royal 10+ just went on the tic list. How is the pro on the 5.9 arete section of Airtime?
Love the shady belay!
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