Grabing Pro for forward progress.

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JuanDeFuca

Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 10, 2005 - 01:33pm PT
I used to really feel bad when I grabed pro, hung out, relaxed, or used for it for forward progress.

Things sure have changed. Now I consider every piece placed as a possible handhold. I feel no guilt.

I look at all the Tahquitz routes I do as mixed free/aid.

I just like to get up the routes of old, and enjoy the view.

Am I alone in this method of climbing.

How often do other old timers grab pro.


Juan


ricardo

Gym climber
San Francisco, CA
Jun 10, 2005 - 02:31pm PT
pro is definately "on-route" when i'm leading.
rico

Trad climber
sf
Jun 10, 2005 - 03:12pm PT
whenever I try that, the piece pops.....i take that as sign to not "french free"
hehe
Lambone

Ice climber
Ashland, Or
Jun 10, 2005 - 03:40pm PT
I try to blame it on the intrest of speed due to other parties on my tail. makes me feel better about myself at the end of the day...
Matt

Trad climber
places you shouldn't talk about in polite company
Jun 10, 2005 - 03:50pm PT
nothing to feel guilty about there guys, lots of climbers are in yosemite to do NOTHING BUT pull on their gear. just keep in mind that what you did was not actually free-ing the route. perhaps you were not up to the task, perhaps you were not mentally prepared for or physically in shape for the crux, and perhaps you just wanted top see the summit.

in any case, it's fine to climb in any style that suits you, so long as you are not affecting the route for anyone else. and hey, if by chance i am stuck behind you on something, no need to cause a bottleneck! either rap outta there and bail, or pull on all the gear you can, let's just get it together and keep moving up there!!! and i will thank you in advance for letting me quickly pass, when safety permits, thanks...

=)
Texplorer

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Jun 11, 2005 - 01:24am PT
Juan sounds more spanish than french to me?
nailbomb

climber
Jun 12, 2005 - 02:24pm PT
fraid climbing yay!

i usually do a little two-step...

step up. sh#t, looks hard. step down. step up...aw f*#k it...YYYYYAAAAAAAARD.

i always fess up though.
Larry

Trad climber
Reno NV
Jun 12, 2005 - 02:27pm PT
"pro is definately "on-route" when i'm leading."

But isn't it a drag when you're seconding, and the leader doesn't place enough pro to yard on?
climberweenie

Trad climber
San Jose, CA
Jun 12, 2005 - 03:07pm PT
you can always batman up the rope if you're seconding and there's no pro (unless your leader is a jerk & keeps a big loop there for you and plays it out if you tried to walk the rope)
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