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Sparky

Trad climber
vagabon movin on
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 15, 2009 - 11:23pm PT
I want to share with you a few of the tentative conclusions I've reached regarding Super Topo's publications. And I stress the word "tentative," because the subject of what motivates Super Topo is tricky and complex. Some background is in order: Super Topo likes to understate the negative impact of racialism. Such activity can flourish only in the dark, however. If you drag it into the open, Super Topo and its spin doctors will run for cover, like cockroaches in a dirty kitchen when the light is turned on suddenly during the night. That's why we must take away as many of Super Topo's opportunities for mischief as possible. While Super Topo's zingers may seem amoral, they're in agreement with Super Topo's crude, devious indiscretions. It is important to differentiate between balmy, obdurate perverts and snotty galoots who, in a variety of ways, have been lured by Super Topo's refractory remarks or who have ended up wittingly or unwittingly in coalitions with Super Topo's secret police or who maintain contact with Super Topo as part of serious and legitimate research.

Looking at it another way, Super Topo's taradiddles can be subtle. They can be so subtle that many people never realize they're being influenced by them. That's why we must proactively notify humanity that Super Topo has, on a number of occasions, expressed a desire to justify, palliate, or excuse the evils of its heart. On all of these occasions, I submitted to the advice of my friends, who assured me that its causeries are destructive. They're morally destructive, socially destructive—even intellectually destructive. And, as if that weren't enough, I have to wonder where it got the idea that it is my view that a totalitarian dictatorship is the best form of government we could possibly have. This sits hard with me because it is simply not true and I've never written anything to imply that it is.

Even if Super Topo's facts were reliable, they were gathered selectively and then manipulated towards favored conclusions. My goal is to get Super Topo to realize that it has a certain fondness for irrational demoniacs. Of course, if it insists on remaining an ignorant, uninformed, and ill-informed flimflammer, that's its prerogative. To be absolutely candid, if we let Super Topo make incorrect leaps of logic, all we'll have to look forward to in the future is a public realm devoid of culture and a narrow and routinized professional life untouched by the highest creations of civilization. Society must soon decide either to stand by our principles and be true to them on all occasions, in all places, against all foes, and at whatever cost or else to let Super Topo encumber the religious idea with too many things of a purely earthly nature and thus bring religion into a totally unnecessary conflict with science. The decision is one of life or death, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever. I can hope only that those in charge realize that if we were to let Super Topo get away with challenging all I stand for, that would be a gross miscarriage of justice. If Super Topo is going to rule with an iron fist, then it should at least have the self-respect to remind itself of a few things: First, a vivid realization of the caducity of life is what motivates me to subject its vaporings to the rigorous scrutiny they warrant. And second, one could argue that the confusion that it creates is desirable and convenient to our national enemies—and Super Topo knows it.

You might have heard the story that Super Topo once agreed to help us embrace the cause of self-determination and recognize the leading role and clearer understanding of those people for whom the quintessential struggle is an encompassing liberation movement against the totality of exhibitionism. No one has located the document in which Super Topo said that. No one has identified when or where Super Topo said that. That's because it never said it. As you might have suspected, Super Topo has the nerve to call those of us who operate on today's real—not tomorrow's ideal—political terrain "conspiracy theorists". No, we're "conspiracy revealers" because we reveal that if I try really, really hard, I can almost see why Super Topo would want to dismantle national civil rights organizations by driving a wedge between the leaders and the rank-and-file members.

If Super Topo continues to humiliate, subjugate, and eventually eliminate everyone who wants to call for a return to the values that made this country great, I will indisputably be obliged to do something about it. And you know me: I never neglect my obligations. Although Super Topo wants to make our lives an endless treadmill of government interferences while providing few real benefits to our health and happiness, if we fail to give you some background information about it, then we have no one to blame but ourselves.

Worse yet, Super Topo wants to replace love and understanding with clericalism and careerism. Super Topo's inclinations always follow the same pattern. It puts the desired twist on the actual facts, ignores inconvenient facts, and invents as many new "facts" as necessary to convince us that society is screaming for its prevarications. So let me make it clear that if Super Topo would abandon its name-calling and false dichotomies it would be much easier for me to advance a clear, credible, and effective vision for dealing with our present dilemma and its most worthless manifestations.

As far as I can tell, Super Topo's a financial predator who preys on the elderly, the gullible, and the vulnerable. It seeks their assets to support its own lavish existence. Keep that in mind while I state the following: Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Of course, if Super Topo had learned anything from history, it'd know that it thinks that the worst types of bumptious ne'er-do-wells there are should be fêted at wine-and-cheese fund-raisers. Of course, thinking so doesn't make it so. Super Topo fully intends to dupe people into believing that it has been robbed of all it does not possess. But that's not enough, not for it. Super Topo will additionally subordinate principles of fairness to less admirable criteria, which is why I avouch that there are three fairly obvious problems with its sentiments, each of which needs to be addressed by any letter that attempts to reveal the nature and activity of its serfs and expose their inner contexts as well as their ultimate final aims. First, organizations like it are beyond help. Second, I hate it when misguided, brown-nosing pipsqueaks like it go on with such vigor about subjects they don't even know about. And third, I'm at loggerheads with it on at least one important issue. Namely, Super Topo argues that the future of the entire world rests in its hands. I take the opposite position, that Super Topo says that freedom must be abolished in order for people to be more secure and comfortable. This is at best wrong. At worst, it is a lie.

In light of my stance on this issue, Super Topo's ventures are more than just inconsiderate. They're a revolt against nature. We need to detail the specific steps and objectives needed to thwart Super Topo's sinful little schemes. Why? Because of what's at stake: literally everything. Super Topo holds onto power like the eunuch mandarins of the Forbidden City—sterile obstacles to progress who glorify dissolute, suppressive, murderous governments as the ideologically correct alternative to all other possibilities. You've heard me say that Super Topo's admirers are all sententious franions. True, that's a cheap shot but too often they do think and behave in ways that reinforce that image.

As anyone living above the Earth's surface knows by now, mankind needs to do more to make an impartial and well-informed evaluation of the advantages and disadvantages of Super Topo's orations. Understand, I am not condemning mankind for not doing enough; I am merely stating that Super Topo's secret passion is to encourage young people to break all the rules, cut themselves loose from their roots, and adopt a disrespectful lifestyle. For shame! My purpose is to deal with Super Topo's unsophisticated asseverations on a case-by-case basis. Most of the battles I fight along the way are exigencies, not long-range educational activities. Nevertheless, Super Topo is on some sort of thesaurus-fueled rampage. Every sentence it writes is filled with needlessly long words like "microcrystallography" and "hippopotomonstrosesquipidelian". Either Super Topo is deliberately trying to confuse us or else it's secretly scheming to deploy enormous resources in a war of attrition against helpless citizens.

This is a fundamental and obvious truth that Super Topo utterly ignores. It vehemently denies that, of course. But it obviously would because it says that those of us who oppose it would rather run than fight. That's its unvarying story, and it's a lie: an extremely brassbound and obstinate lie. Unfortunately, it's a lie that is accepted unquestioningly, uncritically, by Super Topo's operatives. Must it be explained to Super Topo that it's like a fire hydrant spewing superficial vitriol over anyone unfortunate enough to pass by? Because it obviously doesn't realize that I and Super Topo part company when it comes to the issue of jingoism. It feels that "metanarratives" are the root of tyranny, lawlessness, overpopulation, racial hatred, world hunger, disease, and rank stupidity while I allege that one of its favorite tricks is to create a problem and then to offer the solution. Naturally, it's always its solutions that grant it the freedom to paralyze any serious or firm decision and thereby become responsible for the weak and half-hearted execution of even the most necessary measures, never the original problem. Super Topo leads me to believe that it is longiloquent. And that's why I say to you: Have courage. Be honest. And provide an antidote to contemporary manifestations of querulous credentialism. That's the patriotic thing to do, and that's the right thing to do.

http://www.pakin.org/complaint/
Fish Finder

climber
Jul 27, 2015 - 11:19pm PT
Holy Crap
Who has time to read all that bla bla bla
Do people really take themselves so serious on a simple Internet forum ?!?!?!?!?

So reminds me of Pinky and the Brain
Narf!?

Same thing we do everyday ,
We're going to take over the world?
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Jul 27, 2015 - 11:39pm PT
I'm afraid that in this letter I may need to force you outside your comfort zone to get you to confront some extremely difficult questions, questions such as, “Do Lord Spark E Snarkmeister's précis appear reasonable to anyone other than the most patronizing criticasters you'll ever see?” You may be disappointed to hear that my concrete suggestions on how to put truth to power are sprinkled throughout this letter like raisins in a pudding, not grouped together in a single block of text at the end. This was a conscious decision I made based on the observation that Spark's support for freedom of speech extends only to those who agree with him. That is, he believes in “free speech for me but not for thee”. I guess that's not too surprising when one considers that Spark has boasted publicly that he intends to drag everything that is truly great into the gutter. It's one thing for such toxic ideas to be conceived in the clandestine meeting places of international terror organizations but quite another for them to be promoted as Spark has, out in the open. This development lends credence to my claim that it is hardly surprising that Spark wants to prosecute, sentence, and label people as untoward dimbulbs without the benefit of any evidence whatsoever. After all, this is the same gormless, clumsy dingbat whose unprofessional prattle informed us that the federal government should take more and more of our hard-earned money and more and more of our hard-won rights.

Spark's silly paroxysms often resemble an inverted fairy tale in that the triumph of innocence comes at the start and the ugly sisters of philistinism and incendiarism enter on stage in triumph for the final curtain. I've heard Spark say that he has the trappings of deity. Was that just a slip of the lip, or is Spark secretly trying to crush the will of all individuals who have expressed political and intellectual opposition to his blandishments? The answer to this question gives the key not only to world history but to all human culture. Do I want him to blame those who have no power to change the current direction of events? No, thank you very much; I would much rather plant markers that define the limits of what is socially inept and what is not. I personally want to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community. I want to do this not because I need to tack another line onto my résumé but because he is more at home with lies than with the truth. It is for this reason that I find it hilarious that Spark would have the audacity to even pretend that irreligionism is a wonderful thing. As we all know, the truth is that one can consecrate one's life to the service of a noble idea or a glorious ideology. Spark, however, is more likely to spread ruin widely through the land.

Maybe Spark just can't handle harsh reality. Griping about Spark will not make him stop trying to confiscate other people's rightful earnings. But even if it did, he would just find some other way to abet ethnic genocide, dictatorships, and doctrinaire, stentorian barrators.

Spark is frightened that we might ring the bells of truth. That's why he's trying so hard to prevent whistleblowers from reporting that when a child first learns to draw in a coloring book, he or she has no patience for lines and boundaries and so the crayon is spread evenly across the page. I am afraid that Spark's emissaries have succumbed to this temptation by spreading Spark's hideous cop-outs throughout society. I believe we must combat this despicable effort by letting everyone know that Spark's abrasive hypnopompic insights are a source of consternation for those of us who want to struggle unceasingly against Spark's unremitting stream of cacodoxies and slander. I do not say this as one of those negative critics who can always find something wrong with anything. Rather, I say it as someone who firmly believes that Spark's pestilential ethics ruin people's lives. News of this deviousness must spread like wildfire if we are ever to keep his admirers at bay.

Spark may have the right to restructure the social, political, and economic relationships that exist throughout our entire society. He may have the right to topple society. But Spark crosses the line when he uses his bully pulpit to throw us into a “heads I win, tails you lose” situation.

Spark claims that sensationalism forms the core of any utopian society. Whether that's true or not, his evidence is corrupted by a vast amount of nonsense and outright fraud. Before we can further discuss Spark's claim we must acknowledge that if one accepts the framework I've laid out here, it follows that some amount of criticism is acceptable, even helpful. But when that criticism takes the form of singling out just one person unfairly, bitterly, and relentlessly over and over, that's just plain wrong, and we all know it. Well, Spark obviously doesn't know it, as evidenced by the fact that he sometimes has trouble convincing people that racism is absolutely essential to the well-being of society. When he has such trouble, he usually trots out a few morally questionable, feebleminded stumblebums to constate authoritatively that Spark is a martyr for freedom and a victim of larrikinism. Whether or not that trick of his works, it's still the case that I have seen numerous featherbrained maniacs judge people by the color of their skin while ignoring the content of their character. What's sad is that Spark tolerates (relishes?) this flagrant violation of democratic principles and the rule of law. That just goes to show that in Spark's limited horizon he himself is the important object. As a sequence to this self-conceit, he imagines that he is always being misrepresented and/or persecuted. We therefore need to explain to him that I should note that we have a choice. Either we let ourselves be led like lambs to the slaughter by Spark and his loyalists or we offer true constructive criticism—listening to the whole issue, recognizing the problems, recognizing what is being done right, and getting involved to help remedy the problem. While I don't expect you to have much trouble making up your mind you should nevertheless consider that Spark has long wanted to prevent anyone from stating publicly that it is because of his dysgenic practices we have the worst sorts of nerdy blighters there are making excessive use of foul language. Why do I bring that up? Because by studying his repression of ideas in its extreme, unambiguous form one may more clearly understand why I find that I am embarrassed. I am embarrassed that some people don't realize that Spark invariably supports politicians who have been groomed from childhood to permit maladroit demagogues to rise to positions of leadership and authority. From this anecdotal evidence I would argue that he has managed to mollify his more trusting critics simply by promising not to engage in an endless round of finger pointing. We shall see how long that lasts. In the meantime, Spark may send the wrong message to children right after he reads this letter. Let him. In a matter of days, I will find new pathways out of the traps that Spark has laid for us.

To make a long story short, Spark has so frequently lied about how society is screaming for his maneuvers that some weaker-minded people are starting to believe it. We need to explain to such people that Spark has been telling people that the purpose of life is self-gratification. This story has been uncritically swallowed and regurgitated by many half-informed, rotten varmints who find pleasure in believing it. No, I can't explain it either. However, I can say that if everyone does his own, small part, together we can challenge Spark's stolid, benighted assumptions about merit.

Spark sees the world as somewhat anarchic, a game of catch-as-catch-can in which the sneakiest authoritarians nab the biggest prizes. It would be great if we could rise above the narrow confines of self-existence to the broader concerns of all humanity. Still, if we take a step, just a step, towards addressing the issue of alcoholism, then maybe we can open people's eyes (including our own) to a vision of how to instill a sense of responsibility and maturity in those who turn over our country to refractory, scabrous gaberlunzies.

Spark's objectives are sneaky by any measure. Given that they're intended to impose orthodoxy and suppress dissent, they come close to being a crime. You'd think I'd be pretty well inured by now to the lunacies of Spark's treatises, but I have to say that Spark's ideas are a mere cavil, a mere scarecrow, one of the last shifts of a desperate and dying cause. There are some troubling issues here, even putting aside the basic question of whether or not in the name of advancing the interests of his crime syndicate, Spark rejects attempts to provide an antidote to contemporary manifestations of flagitious libertinism. For instance, Spark knows what he wants, and he knows how to get it. What he wants is to put some unsophisticated antagonist up on a pedestal. Making that happen involves propitiating peevish momes for later eventualities. While that tactic may prove successful, it is ill-tempered. It also overlooks the fact that if we drain the swamp of influence-peddling and the system of pay-to-play then the sea of chauvinism, on which Spark so heavily relies, will begin to dry up.

Corruption, lying, and hypocrisy are the fundaments of Spark's hariolations. No, scratch that. Let me instead make the much stronger claim that Spark's commentaries are destructive. They're morally destructive, socially destructive—even intellectually destructive. And, as if that weren't enough, the battle against Bulverism is a battle over ideas. Nevertheless, it is a battle that must be fought in the context of struggle, not the musings of self-important academics. In other words, Spark believes that the Eleventh Commandment is, “Thou shalt undermine the basic values of work, responsibility, and family”. This is hardly the case. Rather, there is growing evidence that says, to the contrary, that Spark proclaims at every opportunity that he'd never erase the memory of all traditions and all history. The gentleman doth protest too much, methinks. Finally, this has been a good deal of reading, and honestly difficult reading at that. Still, I hope you walk away from it with the new knowledge that there is an implicit assumption here that Lord Spark E Snarkmeister's covertly inculcating the gross error of inferring that exclusivism is a noble cause.


Edit: I opted for the 10 paragraph version of the rant generator output, the longest available. It only seemed right. Lucky for you all there is not a 100 paragraph version available.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jul 27, 2015 - 11:55pm PT
Lord help us.

Sometimes I wish we were in the dark ages
When only the king was boss.

This is not a democracy. It Paine's some of you, I know, but we are all prisoners of 'The Word from Higher Up the Chain.'

At least we have some nice Art. Some typically rambunctious theology discussions. Some insights into the woes of the First World, the weird mind but sound of Herr Braun the Brief, and jolly-good climbing content.

I'm happy.

I'll be happy.

I'm smilin'.

Try it, Sparky. What a misnomer.

Rants are not culture, it may shock you to realize. They are personal observations. Dressing down the boss isn't in your job description, either.

Sit. Stay. Woof.

Are you a Dalmatian, by chance, with that name?
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Jul 28, 2015 - 12:28am PT
WHO IS SPARKEY ? THE ORIGINAL POST IS SIX YEARS OLD - 2009!!


Now for a spamming worthy of. . . Oops shableteer a driver of a auto correctrunamok pasting double and such . .

Ho shoot it got me !

And it is now some ten minutes later it is maligning me laugh
I will postpone or two from small rock hell the others are from the Squamish thread thnxGrowth comes from the willingness and ability to listen and learn from what you hear
That deserves an answer to a question what is trepidation ? And what isCool that is picture # 420,000, this is and the climbing pics are great y¥aren't they? Thanx For the use of them #%^>B^>#%^Sa%^*||
I've heard Spark say that he has the trappings of deity.
Was that just a slip of the lip, or is Spark secretly trying to crush the will of all individuals who have expressed political and intellectual opposition to his blandishments?

The answer to this question gives the key not only to world history but to all human culture.

Do I want him to blame those who have no power to change the current direction of events? No,
thank you very much;
I would much rather plant markers that define the limits of what is socially inept and what is not.

I personally want to encourage opportunity, responsibility, and community.

I want to do this not because I need to tack another line onto my résumé but because he is more at home with lies than with the truth.
(Lost me here but I take poetic hyperbole past all reason so I can not and do not judge)



It is for this reason that I find it hilarious that Spark would have the audacity to even pretend that irreligionism is a wonderful thing.

As we all know,
the truth is that one can consecrate one's life to the service of a noble idea or a glorious ideology.

Spark, however, is more likely to spread ruin widely through the land.


Thank you,
Growth comes from the willingness and ability to listen and learn from what you hear.
I read it three times before I got it ? Then I took it apart and considered it ! Then I felt a bit empty, sorry for my snark. The below comment is the snark I refer to.








FIRST I SCATHINGLY SCANNED THE TWO COMPUTER GENERATED! MISSIVES! AND
Please sir , or to whom it may concern,
Life is short and walk or run it will some day be done.
over
if you save your breath save
your voice for the things that matter
you may be given the clarity, the wit and form of writ of the wild bushman. . . .

Did I read ?

Some . . A bit but,

my teeth being a mess and raisins being problematic, nuts too.
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Before I got to far in it bit back - and I have fewer teeth to deal with that up there.

I skipped most and instead post,. . .

Lastly the Rotarians 'round here,have dogs in the fight so until they the PoePoe in these parts,. And powers that be - heal, leash or kennel their cur, it is not worth saying anything.
apinguat

Trad climber
kingfield, me
Jul 28, 2015 - 05:02am PT
DrukenMaster, I think you missed that it was a joke.

It's an auto generated rant: Insert name X, specify # paragraphs... press generate

I did laugh at the "preys on the elderly, the gullible, and the vulnerable". Elderly, gullible and vulnerable about sums up my current position.

In my youth I used to page through Secor while planning a High Sierra trip and it often resulted in some spectacularly hilarious failures. Then one day, as I grew older, I got my first supertopo. At first I only read it was only a little, I swore I could stop at any time. Just the approach BETA for this one climb. But I couldn’t stop, I needed more, more, next it was the descent info then the gear estimates then finally it was the TOPO itself. You could call it an addiction. Next thing I knew I’d sold off my TV, stereo and stripped the copper out of my apartment just so could get my SuperT fix. I now have every guide book, even to places I will likely (at my advanced age) never go.....

Darn you guys do a good job! Unparalleled. Thank you.
Spiny Norman

Social climber
Boring, Oregon
Jul 28, 2015 - 05:10am PT
tl;dr.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jul 28, 2015 - 08:02am PT
Where is Kingfield, Maine?
climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Jul 28, 2015 - 08:24am PT
Louisiana I beleive.
apinguat

Trad climber
kingfield, me
Jul 28, 2015 - 04:33pm PT
Not to far from NH or Canada.
Sparky

Trad climber
vagabond movin on
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 28, 2015 - 07:51pm PT
Holy shiz, I forgot about this foolishness! Silly app.
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