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fareastclimber
Trad climber
Hong Kong
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 17, 2005 - 02:09pm PT
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I'm not entirely sure if this has been covered previously (couldn't find anything in the search). I was wondering about how you set up your haul bag. What I mean, for example, do you leave your anchor tether cord hanging off the bag with their designated biners fixed in place whilst hauling? How do you set a back up for the bag. Basically I'm just looking to refine my set up in a manner that is both simple and clean.
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ricardo
Gym climber
San Francisco, CA
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May 17, 2005 - 03:12pm PT
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tether - yes i leave my tether attached to the suspension while hauling..
backup - i use a daisy also attached to the suspension .. leave it on the pig while hauling.
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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May 17, 2005 - 03:34pm PT
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Have your tether and your haul point attached to the bag w/ different locking biners. Attach the haul line to the anchor as a back up until the bag is ready to haul.
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deuce4
Big Wall climber
Pagosa Springs CO
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May 17, 2005 - 05:10pm PT
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Another idea is to use a haulcord,a 15' piece of 8mm or 9mm, which holds all the bags, so you only need one daisy girthhitched to the top knot of the haulcord (which is the same place where the haulrope clips in with two locking biners).
Here's a sketch that was meant for the Big Walls technique book that never made it:
The separate haulcord makes anchoring the pigs much easier. Everything is clipped in with double locking biners so clusterf*#ks can be dealt with.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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May 17, 2005 - 05:21pm PT
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"Everything is clipped in with double locking biners so clusterf*#ks can be dealt with."
Why double? What're the benefits? [having a brain fart here today]
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deuce4
Big Wall climber
Pagosa Springs CO
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May 17, 2005 - 07:17pm PT
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ok, pass the pitons pete, you have special permission to use a single biner to clip in your life support system. Make it an ultralight with a wire gate if you like.
cheers
jm
Actually, I like to use a a locker and a regular biner--sometimes I have found biners cross loaded scaring me into using two!
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ricardo
Gym climber
San Francisco, CA
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May 17, 2005 - 07:22pm PT
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jm:
is that a mini-pig that you have underneath the main pig? --
is there something specific you put in there .. or just overflow from the main pig ..
i've usually taken a food bucket as a sub load underneath my main pig .. its a 5 gallong paint bucket from home depot. keeps bread and other crushable food from getting crushed.
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Melissa
Gym climber
berkeley, ca
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May 17, 2005 - 08:05pm PT
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jm...I was having the same problem w/ the haul biners cross loading...sorta. In my case one kept getting sucked into the other one and obviously straining each other. So I started to use a single super locker (i.e. a locker with a lock on the lock) at the main haul point, and then have a second haul point back up slightly slack in tandem (i.e. closer to the end of the rope, farther way from the haul) so that there is a total catastrophe back up but the two biners are not tensioned in the same place at the same time.
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Spinmaster K-Rove
Trad climber
Stuck Under the Kor Roof
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May 17, 2005 - 10:27pm PT
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I've always simply tied a butterfly for my pig and a figure 8 for the sub bag and kept them all on the same line. Your haul line never has to be quite as long as your lead line cause it doesn't go through all the gear. The extra 6' of rope or so that you need to tie the sub bag in has never kept me from making an anchor.
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