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TD
Intermediate climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 29, 2002 - 06:45pm PT
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Visiting Tuolumne for the first time in about a week. Are there any sites with approach beta? I have the Tuolumnne Guidebook, which has excellent climbing information, but almost no approach descriptions. For example, the only information I've been able to find about the Tenaya NW Buttress is that it's a 30 minute approach. I have no problem using a map and compass to find the start, but it would be nice to know some minimal info:
Is there a trail? Where does it start? How do you distinguish it from other trails, for example the trail around Tenaya Lake that leads to the lower climbs?
This seems to be a major lack throughout the guidebook I have, when compared with many other guidebooks I have used, such as Red Rocks, Gunks, Adks, New, etc., which offer detailed approach descriptions. In Tuolumne, either the approaches must be totally obvious once you're there, or the author just chose not to include the info.
Any help on a source would be appreciated. It's a short visit, and I can't afford to burn climbing time hiking up dead end gullies, etc.
Thanks!
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BR
Novice climber
The LBC
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Aug 29, 2002 - 06:51pm PT
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There is such a guidebook. It's called a SuperTopo. You can get it on this very site.
br
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Jay
Novice climber
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Aug 29, 2002 - 07:21pm PT
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Most of the approaches are so strait forward that you don't really need a map, or additional beta over and above Don Reids guidebook (I'm assuming that's what you have). For example the approach to Tanaya Peak is basic. Just go to the Southeast corner of Tanaya lake, follow a narrow trail east untill in seems like a good point to go up. Boom, you're there.
Other approaches are so simple it's rediculous. Daff, easy. Stately Pleasure, easy. Lembert, Fairview, Phobos/Demos, Low Profile, Drug, Olmstead, etc. all easy my friend. Some aren't as basic, but are described in Reids book well enough to get around just fine.
Now if you want killer route topos, go with Mac's stuff. It truly is much more accurate. FWIW, if you want to do Tanaya Peak (its really fun) I prefer the route shown in Reids book over Supertopo. See my post on that, or send email.
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TD
Intermediate climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2002 - 07:33pm PT
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Thanks to both BR and Jason for the good info!
BR, I may seem dumb, but I'm really not. My first introduction to Supertopos
was the Rock and Ice article. The descriptions reproduced in Rock and Ice were
full of obvious mistakes, and contained absolutely NO approach info. I was
deceived, and had not looked at the ST samples on this site. Now I have. They're
exactly what I ned and I'm downloading the ebook tonight.
Jason, thanks! It's good to know that many of the approaches are easy. We'll be taking
a hiking and climbing vacation, and I want to spend the climbing days climbing!
Thanks again!
TD
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Charlie
Novice climber
Berkeley - Bronx (heading cross country)
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 29, 2002 - 09:40pm PT
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The SuperTopo e book for Tuolumne Meadows is great. Buy it. Also check out the Beta section of the SuperTopo web site for imformation on particular climbs. Have fun.
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tree
Novice climber
forest
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2002 - 12:08pm PT
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the beauty of the meadows is that the approach can often be as enjoyable as the climb.
take a moment and breathe
tree
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Jay
Novice climber
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Aug 30, 2002 - 12:50pm PT
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Another thing about TM. There are times when I go climbing and I want to push myself to do hard stuff. But if I go to TM with this attitude, it's gone by day one of the trip. Not because of the intimidating runouts or the super slick glacial pollish, but because ALL the climbs, including the easy ones are SOOOOO much fun I could care less what the difficulty ratings are.
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BR
Novice climber
The LBC
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Aug 30, 2002 - 12:54pm PT
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TD -- it's all good. You were just the latest in a string of people who show up, ask for a bunch of beta that they could easily find in the SuperTopo if they wanted to support Chris Mac's company, and then disappear again.
Hopefully, you'll stick around -- let us know how the trip went.
And I gotta second what tree and Jason said -- so much so that in two trips to Tuolumne since I started climbing a couple of years ago, I've yet to pull out the rope. I wind up getting so psyched on the scenery and the entire place that I just kind of wander around taking it in and relaxing. Maybe next year.
Enjoy your trip (not that I have much doubt that you will ...)
br
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Novice climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 30, 2002 - 05:52pm PT
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Pull over at Tenaya lake.
Get out and stare at Tenaya peak.
Pick out your line.
Walk to beach.
Walk along beach to trail.
Turn left on trail.
Follow it to rough climbers trail
Scramble, mostly hike to slabs.
Climb your line. Left is easier, right is harder.
Enjoy the view from the summit.
Smile.
Hike down the ridge til you can descend down slabs to the lake and the trail.
Hike back to beach.
Crack a beer, and reconsider your philosophy of approaches.
More hiking than cliimbing, but a blast nonetheless.
Have fun.
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