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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 12, 2008 - 05:02pm PT
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The first alloy steel pitons commercially available in Europe were produced by the Clogworks in Wales in the early seventies. I just snagged a few for the YCA collection on ebay. Not a hammermark on them!
Second down from the top is a Clog 1" angle that is from an earlier generation and even less like a Chouinard shape.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 12, 2008 - 05:22pm PT
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Manufactured at a secret factory in North Wales, as the Brits used to tell us...
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Jonny D
Social climber
Lost Angelez, Kalifornia
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Jan 12, 2008 - 06:10pm PT
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I have some of the knifeblades-like ones, I did use them a few times.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jan 12, 2008 - 06:54pm PT
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I used them BITD. They had the rounded tips for punching into those chossy welsh cracks, but they weren't worth dried bird$hit in shallow pockets.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2008 - 07:07pm PT
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Where did you guys buy the Clog hardware?
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jan 12, 2008 - 07:55pm PT
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MEC in Vancouver sold Clog pins for a while, around 1977/78 if I remember correctly.
Clog made knifeblades made of titanium, which did seem superior in some applications, but I don't think they were widely available.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2008 - 08:10pm PT
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Never seen one MH. If you do, kindly send it on to Ken.
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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Jan 12, 2008 - 10:02pm PT
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Bitd you could buy them at Rei, Nf in stonestown Sf & bezerkely, holubar-boulder, a bunch of places, really.
Cool photos!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 12, 2008 - 11:06pm PT
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Interesting case of parallel evolution especially considering that the American hard steel pitons in the hands of Robbins and Frost shook up the European climbing scene pretty thoroughly. I wonder when Clog sold their first peg?
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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i think i got ripped off at $1.75.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 5, 2017 - 09:20pm PT
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It should perform better than a BD knifeblade so I'd say you did alright.
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
13,000 feet
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"Clog woks?" or Clogwyn?
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duncan
climber
London, UK
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Nice haul!
Made by Clogwyn Climbing Gear Limited - Clog was their trademark - the ancestors of DMM. Incorporated in 1976, though doubtless Denny Moorhouse was bashing iron before then.
The Lost Arrow style were known as Kingpins and a little narrower than the Chouinard version. Conversely, the knifeblades were a little wider. The materials and manufacturing were of the highest standard, the design derivative but optimised for local Welsh/British rock. A lot like DMM Dragons versus BD Camalots, their present day descendants. The biggest issue with using Clog pegs in Yosemite was they didn't fit snugly into Lost Arrow or Bugaboo created pin-scars.
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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karabin museum
Trad climber
phoenix, az
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Stephane - your post uploaded at the same time as my post. Happy New Year my friend!
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nutstory
climber
Ajaccio, Corsica, France
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Marty, the planet is not that big ;-)
All my best wishes for a fruitful New Year to you from Corsica!
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Stephane! I like the 1977 Clog Ad. That was fun! Thanks for all you post!
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