When is it safe to climb base of El Cap without fear of ice fall?

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sfclimber

Trad climber
Redwood City, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 25, 2004 - 10:14pm PT
Anyone have any beta on whether or not it is currently safe to climb the base of El Cap (e.g. first pitches of Salathe Wall) without fear of ice fall? Assuming that the weather is clear for the weekend, has recent snow fall made it too dangerous?
Gene

Social climber
Two hours away
Feb 25, 2004 - 10:45pm PT
I think the worst time to do the first pitches of the Salathe is now. There has been a lot of recent precipitation, some of which drips off during the day. But if PM temps go below freezing, all that mid-day drip freezes at night and is just waiting for sunlight to let go. Not to mention the heavy stuff on top of EC.

I climbed LaCosita in winter way back when. We dodged ice cubes all day long. One sliced my calf like a knife. I'd only try the first part of the Salathe in the afternoon after watching the wall or after a few days when temps don't go below freezing. The advantage of the first 2 pitches of the Salathe is that you are in an alcove. The disadvantage is that you never know where those ice cubes are going to land.
Brian

Big Wall climber
Fresno
Feb 26, 2004 - 02:05am PT
I've climbed Freeblast in April and was still pelted by falling ice. There's no dodging them either. Those chunks of ice come rocketing down so fast that by the time you hear 'em, they're gone. And when they hit you it seriously hurts. One left a nasty bruise on my right shoulder and another hit my helmet so hard I saw stars.........

Brian
WBraun

climber
Feb 26, 2004 - 02:19am PT
Sfclimber

Right now it's dumping big time outside. It's snowing hard on the rim and pouring on the Valley floor. They had Badger Pass closed today due to this storm (The plows can't keep up). This weekend will definately not be Salathe time.

Werner
can't say

Social climber
Pasadena CA
Feb 26, 2004 - 07:32am PT
shit we're even getting dumped on down here in HellA. I imagine the Valley is even worse then what Werner just posted. This couild be a very wet Spring time.
Nor Cal

Trad climber
San Mateo
Feb 26, 2004 - 10:16am PT
I climbed the first few pitches in early January, there was no ice fall, but I have also been there when ice was falling (last year) and it was not the place to be. We could hear the larger chunks breaking on the wall above us and we were pelted by the broken remains. We did not stay there very long. With the recent major storms I think you'll be lucky to find a lot of dry climbing and there will certainly be ice on the top of El Cap.
Matt

Trad climber
SF Bay Area
Feb 26, 2004 - 12:30pm PT
climbed freeblast in feb. last year, pretty much had the place to ourselves (go figure). there were lots of cool fluttering snow-flake like ice things, half fluttering and half falling, passing by all day.

one nice sized snow/ice-ball just missed me off to the side right before i fell on one of the slab pitches.


check this link-
http://www.yosemite.org/vryos/index.htm
for the current condition of the build-up of snow above the route.
sfclimber

Trad climber
Redwood City, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2004 - 02:18pm PT
Bummer. Pretty much what I expected to hear. Thanks for the info everyone.
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