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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 4, 2016 - 11:39am PT
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A new Canyoneering/natural wonder has been disclosed in Oregon, with a brief PBS story about it, tonight.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
For me, it brings up the issue of whether special natural features, such as this, should be hidden from the American public by the agencies protecting them?
This feature has apparently been known about by the agency for a number of years, but kept secret and not documented.
I contrast that with the secret cavern in the Sequoia NF known as "Crystal 67" or Haughton's Cave. Here, the agency keeps the location of the entrance secret, and locked. They will give you the combination if you convince them you are appropriately skilled in caving. It is well known in the caving community. It's apparently a dangerous place, too, like Valhalla.
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matty
Trad climber
under the sea
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Lame that they hype it up as mysterious, untouched, undocumented, unphotographed and then proceed to destroy all that by making a moving to be aired on public television.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2016 - 02:19pm PT
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Well, not quite the whole story.
Turns out the USFS knew about it locally for decades.
The subject of this recent find, a USFS firefighter who spotted it from the air, and struggled with the decision to disclose this publically for several years.
So you are saying that Public agencies should keep natural wonders on public lands secret, to be visited only by them?
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 4, 2016 - 07:37pm PT
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DMT,
I don't necessarily disagree with what you advocate PRIVATE citizens do with their private knowledge, but I'm more focusing on what PUBLIC agencies with knowledge of things should do?
I understand the concept of protecting something, but then you get into the realm of protecting from what?
Then we start to create a series of attractions that are limited to the members of the agencies and their families ONLY.
I'm also not sure I support the concept of the USFS and USPS being able to classify information.
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John M
climber
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I'm also not sure I support the concept of the USFS and USPS being able to classify information.
I'm pretty happy with the idea that they hide some things from being common knowledge. They don't tell where every historic indian site is in the desert, and that means that these sites are preserved, but also it means that they are out there for the individual to happen upon. Thats pretty cool in my opinion. I know a couple of places in Yosemite that very very few people ever get to. I use to talk about them all the time. Now I don't. Let someone else go explore and find them the way that I did. Thats part of the fun.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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I'm pretty happy with the idea that they hide some things from being common knowledge. They don't tell where every historic indian site is in the desert, and that means that these sites are preserved, but also it means that they are out there for the individual to happen upon. Thats pretty cool in my opinion. I know a couple of places in Yosemite that very very few people ever get to. I use to talk about them all the time. Now I don't. Let someone else go explore and find them the way that I did. Thats part of the fun.
And if everyone leaves these places "clean", the next person to stumble into them can feel the sense of "discovery" too. Cause face it, people been nearly everywhere on this Earth (above water).
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