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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 14, 2015 - 10:17am PT
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I'm pretty sure a born Canadian is not going to be the next president. Especially one that doesn't believe in the job of governing but prefers to shut it down.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 10:24am PT
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Ha! You can never, ever underestimate the stupidly of American voters. Cognitive dissonance is their middle name.
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, Moab or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Aug 14, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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Wow. Private audience?
Susan
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Aug 14, 2015 - 10:28am PT
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The next president will be one of these four people. Clinton, Bush, Biden, or Walker.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 14, 2015 - 10:29am PT
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Or Rubio. Bush is not looking very credible these days.
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jogill
climber
Colorado
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:34pm PT
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And lost in all the hullaballu, the two best candidates (IMHO): Webb and Kasich
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couchmaster
climber
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
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If Cruz gets elected you'll need to get that shot blown up for your son. Bet that would be a memory he'll never forget. Much like when Robert Kennedys bodyguards roughed me up in 1968. Ethel Kennedy, his wife, saw it occur, took pity on me and gave me an autograph as the rest of the imperial procession paraded away.
MEMMORIESSSSSSSSSS ........ meh, I can't carry a tune.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Aug 14, 2015 - 12:40pm PT
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Kermit... don't forget kermit. Green party and all.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:00pm PT
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ElCap said it best...
"Ted Cruz..."do I like green eggs and ham?" I'd like them if you choke on them, you McCarthy look-a-like smarmy slimeball. Govt shutdown temper tantrum blowhard. Hated by both sides, including his own GOP colleagues in the Senate because he's a back stabbing as#@&%e. The kind of guy if you met on the street you'd either mistake for a huckster preacher, used car salesman, or grifter."
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:37pm PT
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The election is still a long way off, so I think it's way too early to pick the likely winners of nominations, much less elections.
While Cruz is obviously much closer to me ideologically than President Obama, both strike me as similar -- highly intelligent, but utterly unable to work with the opposition, or to bring divergent viewpoints together.
I'm more than ready for someone like Kasich. And even with her tendency toward criminal behavior, I'd vote for Hillary over several people seeking the Republican nomination. Rubio would have been a good republican possibility, but his extreme views on abortion make him unelectable. I do take issue with El Cap concerning Rubio's finances, though. The criticism amounts to saying he had to take out loans to get his education and buy a house. As a professional in debtor-creditor relations for 36 years, I'm always concerned with debt levels, but I'm more concerned with the purpose of the debt and the ability to repay. Rubio's debt was for true investment, and no one has alleged he defaulted on any of his debts.
John
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:42pm PT
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While Cruz is obviously much closer to me ideologically than President Obama, both strike me as similar -- highly intelligent, but utterly unable to work with the opposition, or to bring divergent viewpoints together.
You have got to be kidding.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:55pm PT
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The criticism amounts to saying he had to take out loans to get his education and buy a house.
Nope. Keep trying. Guy has stolen from political funds to pay for his personal things like paving his driveway and was caught doing it, put his relatives on the payroll for doing essentially nothing, has about a zero net worth despite handout jobs making >$300k/yr and including an 800k advance on a book, blew 80k on a boat when he was already in tight financial situation, and even liquidated a retirement account for measely 60-someK. The guy is a poster boy for living beyond your means and making poor financial decisions (on top of the criminal ones).
Feel free to read more, this guy should have no place in any conversation about leadership, responsibility, economics, or budgets:
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/10/us/politics/marco-rubio-finances-debt-loans-credit.html
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Slabby D
Trad climber
B'ham WA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 01:59pm PT
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Nice turnout. Looks like he got a whole 10 people to show up.
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looking sketchy there...
Social climber
Lassitude 33
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Aug 14, 2015 - 03:12pm PT
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Jody,
Cruz caters too much to (and is too out on) the far right to be a serious contender in a National election, but, he certainly has a strong and active base of support.
Regardless of what you think of him, meeting a national party candidate has to be pretty cool and a great experience for your son.
Being a bit left of center, a supporter of civil and women's rights, and one who takes the very real threat to our planet seriously, I could only hope that Cruz got the Republican nomination as he is completely un-electable.
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couchmaster
climber
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Aug 14, 2015 - 03:55pm PT
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Jody said: "Cruz was very gracious in the time he spent visiting with my son before he offered me the chance to be his running mate."
Haha! Someone sounds like they were puffing on the pipe there:-) You accepted of course?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Aug 14, 2015 - 04:53pm PT
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Jody...Si puede..! rj
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Aug 14, 2015 - 05:16pm PT
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Thanks for putting on your thick skin and posting Jody.
I have to say Cruz really seems like closet case to me. The smooth puffy face. Just something feminine about him. And of course people with that belief system who have those predilections are often the most anti-gay and hate filled because of that conflict.
But politically I have the same problem with him as many on the far right and far left. This country was founded on freedom and compromise. It's supposed to work for everyone. All the way back to the Mayflower there were pilgrims but a good portion of the first settlers were just hired hands (soldiers, carpenters, etc.). The pilgrims and others got along, they didn't force their beliefs on the others and made rules that worked for everyone.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 14, 2015 - 05:49pm PT
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Droopy eyes, apparently a give away for extreme right wing wackiness
Our good buddy Cruz wants to "Shut er Down"
Shut down the evil Gubmint, what could be better!!! It's doing Bad things!!
We got SHUT ER DOWN to stop fetuses from being chopped up and sold for PROFIT!!!
Who needs the stinken gubmint anyway, Losers!!! Right!!
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bergbryce
climber
East Bay, CA
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Aug 14, 2015 - 06:10pm PT
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Cruz is el loco.
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ms55401
Trad climber
minneapolis, mn
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Aug 14, 2015 - 06:20pm PT
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earnest citizen discussing "the issues" with "the next President of the United States"
I indulged the thought, then chuckled a bit
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