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jsb

Trad climber
Bay area
Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 23, 2015 - 04:43pm PT
Just some food for thought...

What if Tommy and Kevin had been international climbers?... maybe from Germany or France. Would the American climbing community still be so psyched about the style of the ascent?
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Jan 23, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
Boo. Hiss.
Flip Flop

Trad climber
Truckee, CA
Jan 23, 2015 - 06:13pm PT
Ask yer mom.
WBraun

climber
Jan 23, 2015 - 06:21pm PT
What if...

You were never even born ......
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
Jan 23, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
Justin,

Just compare to the Hubers - they are from Europe and have done several El Cap FFAs.
Usually got good press in the climbing mags.

But to some folks, taking any falls on the route, or using hanging belays, tick marks, etc. may seem out of the range for FFAs of single pitches done near the ground.
No big deal.
I think most people are psyched they accomplished their FFA after so much work.
It's normal to wonder about the style, as usually people try to use strict definitions for "free" on single pitch climbs.
jsb

Trad climber
Bay area
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 07:36pm PT
Thanks, Clint! Hope you're doing well.

Please don't misunderstand, I'm really psyched they accomplished the route, too. I followed every one of Tom's reports with great anticipation. :)

At the same time, I just today caught myself thinking that if any less well-known characters had come in and done the route like that, with that much press, I might have been on the other side of the fence. Tommy and Kevin are so humble and like-able, they are easy to root for. :)

Just thinking out loud... I'm psyched when anybody climbs El Cap, free or aid!
ß Î Ø T Ç H

Boulder climber
extraordinaire
Jan 23, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
... definitions for "free" on single pitch climbs.
I'm all ears (Honnold) Clint, why does the definition change on multi-pitch?
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jan 24, 2015 - 07:54am PT
It's a good question, as cool as this climb / ascent, was / is.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 24, 2015 - 09:55am PT
What if we gave 'em the Wings Of Steel treatment and pooped on their ropes?


Would there be hottie reporters asking Honnlove about it?
jsb

Trad climber
Bay area
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2015 - 12:31pm PT
My first thought was if a European production assembly came in to do the Dawn Wall show, there would have been a sh#t storm of protest on the Taco and elsewhere.

Agreed. :) Kind of interesting, right?
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Jan 24, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
My first thought was if a European production assembly came in to do the Dawn Wall show, there would have been a sh#t storm of protest on the Taco and elsewhere.

So what's the problem with that?? ;)
jsb

Trad climber
Bay area
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2015 - 01:29pm PT
No problem here. Loading up my bowels now for whoever tries to come in for 2nd ascent...
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