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jsb
Trad climber
Bay area
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jan 23, 2015 - 04:43pm PT
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Just some food for thought...
What if Tommy and Kevin had been international climbers?... maybe from Germany or France. Would the American climbing community still be so psyched about the style of the ascent?
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Jan 23, 2015 - 05:35pm PT
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Boo. Hiss.
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Flip Flop
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Jan 23, 2015 - 06:13pm PT
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Ask yer mom.
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 23, 2015 - 06:21pm PT
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What if...
You were never even born ......
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Jan 23, 2015 - 06:33pm PT
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Justin,
Just compare to the Hubers - they are from Europe and have done several El Cap FFAs.
Usually got good press in the climbing mags.
But to some folks, taking any falls on the route, or using hanging belays, tick marks, etc. may seem out of the range for FFAs of single pitches done near the ground.
No big deal.
I think most people are psyched they accomplished their FFA after so much work.
It's normal to wonder about the style, as usually people try to use strict definitions for "free" on single pitch climbs.
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jsb
Trad climber
Bay area
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 23, 2015 - 07:36pm PT
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Thanks, Clint! Hope you're doing well.
Please don't misunderstand, I'm really psyched they accomplished the route, too. I followed every one of Tom's reports with great anticipation. :)
At the same time, I just today caught myself thinking that if any less well-known characters had come in and done the route like that, with that much press, I might have been on the other side of the fence. Tommy and Kevin are so humble and like-able, they are easy to root for. :)
Just thinking out loud... I'm psyched when anybody climbs El Cap, free or aid!
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
extraordinaire
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Jan 23, 2015 - 09:24pm PT
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... definitions for "free" on single pitch climbs. I'm all ears (Honnold) Clint, why does the definition change on multi-pitch?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 24, 2015 - 07:54am PT
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It's a good question, as cool as this climb / ascent, was / is.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 24, 2015 - 09:55am PT
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What if we gave 'em the Wings Of Steel treatment and pooped on their ropes?
Would there be hottie reporters asking Honnlove about it?
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jsb
Trad climber
Bay area
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2015 - 12:31pm PT
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My first thought was if a European production assembly came in to do the Dawn Wall show, there would have been a sh#t storm of protest on the Taco and elsewhere.
Agreed. :) Kind of interesting, right?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Jan 24, 2015 - 12:39pm PT
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My first thought was if a European production assembly came in to do the Dawn Wall show, there would have been a sh#t storm of protest on the Taco and elsewhere.
So what's the problem with that?? ;)
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jsb
Trad climber
Bay area
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 24, 2015 - 01:29pm PT
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No problem here. Loading up my bowels now for whoever tries to come in for 2nd ascent...
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