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Anastasia
Trad climber
Near a mountain, CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - May 26, 2006 - 04:40pm PT
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ATHENS, Greece -- Warplanes from Greece and Turkey collided over the Aegean Sea as they shadowed each other Tuesday in disputed airspace...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/23/AR2006052300313.html
Aaaiiieee! Here we go again! Turkey's bloody history is flashing through everyone's minds in Europe.
The people that survived the Turkish attempt of Greek/Armenian genocide are going to be freaking right now.
I don't care what the government officials are saying, the Greeks are not going to be reacting well and that means problems. We need Turkey's economic sources to join the European Union and strengthen it, but the Union might never be comfortable to admit it's first non-Christian nation. Especially if that nation can't make nice with it's traditional enemy, (the Greek Nation.) Plus, since Germans also mistrust Turks, I wonder what everyone is thinking now about the proposal?
I know the U.S. wants Turkey to become part of the Union, it wants at least one Muslim nation to model how Islam and Western world is able to coexist... I wonder, is it possible? Or will conquest always be too tempting? Let's see what happens.
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caughtinside
Social climber
Davis, CA
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May 26, 2006 - 04:42pm PT
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Thanks for covering the news while Juan is out!
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Anastasia
Trad climber
Near a mountain, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2006 - 04:51pm PT
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Can't help it, my family is there. My Uncle is a Greek Admiral that has just been called in on Red Alert.
Kinda of interesting since the government is officially claiming that nothing is happening.
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golsen
Social climber
kennewick, wa
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May 26, 2006 - 05:22pm PT
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I hope your unc is OK. I also hope the greek and turk leaders are smarter than the Bush admin concerning war....
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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May 26, 2006 - 05:26pm PT
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That how my grandfather - the gangster - Kostos Mavrades, wound up in Pocatello, Idaho: The Turks tried to kill all the Greeks in Symrna and he was one of the lucky few who made it out alive. Before the fun was over, I think the Turks killed about 20,000 ethnic Greeks in that area. My grandmother used to say that Kostos was "part-Turk" - the ultimate insult.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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May 26, 2006 - 05:30pm PT
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Don't forget Armenia.
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JEM
Social climber
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May 26, 2006 - 05:47pm PT
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Fear not ... send in Beth and Tommy. They'll straighten it out.
JEM
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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May 26, 2006 - 06:16pm PT
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The Hatfields and McCoys have been holding conjoined family reunions for the past decade or so; not sure I'd hold my breath for the same between the Greeks and Turks. The Turks are an interesting lot - very much a unusual world unto themselves. Both nations repsectively have traded being the center of the known universe at one time or another and I think that sometimes makes it hard to reconcile with each other and in the case of Turkey, with the rest of the world.
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pyro
Trad climber
Ventura
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May 26, 2006 - 06:20pm PT
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my dad say's "you should have seen the vietnamese learn how to fly a jet", back when he was stationed on the base would cycle twenty miles each day. I wonder, what's going on over there!
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