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Largo
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 12, 2011 - 03:06pm PT
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Was watching a clip of Andy "directing" one of his movies. A western, as it were. Hay was spread out around the back of the studio they´d brought in a pony and a couple of Andy´s queers were dressed up in chaps and dungarees and hats and one had the six-shooters and they were sort of pestering the pony while the cameraman smoked and looked through the view finder here and there. There was no script, but another of Andy´s pooftas had big cheat cards with ideas and a few lines scribbled on them in Sharpie. But something wasn´t right till Andy had the sound man lower the mic so it was in the shot. Later, during editing, Andy instructed the editor, a 13 year old girl, to make sure and cut out anything interesting.
Obviously this was all trying to make a mockery of traditional slick filmaking through the ver deliberate flubbing of the classical verities. His idea was to do bad, but do it wonderfully. There are things to consider here . . .
JL
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Dos XX
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 03:14pm PT
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I love Los Angeles. I love Hollywood. They're so beautiful. Everything's plastic, but I love plastic. I want to be plastic.
Andy Warhol
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Russ Walling
Gym climber
Poofter's Froth, Wyoming
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Dec 12, 2011 - 03:14pm PT
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Warhol is top shelf.
HIs films are at a minimum, thought provoking. Frankenstein and Dracula are standouts for any fan.
The documentaries are always a hoot, spilling over with oddness.
I always wanted to see this: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1309410/ movie/documentary about Warhol and Roy Lichtenstein. Probably 2 copies in the world, in a vault, long forgotten.
As an aside, here is a cool Lichtenstien statue in Barcelona that we happened upon:
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Largo
Sport climber
The Big Wide Open Face
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 12, 2011 - 04:34pm PT
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I think he might have been mildly autistic or at any rate emotionally dulled and dialed off. This rendered some very queer fruit. But the idea of consciously but artfully screwing things up, and also the notion of creating plastic, or virtual versions of things, either cheesed up like his lithos, or with all the luster rubbed off, is fascinating to me.
But he did more then mere parody. Though not, perhaps, a whole lot more. But graphic art was never the same after Andy. The Soup can shite was conceptual scamming and taking sucker´s dough, almost an inside joke on what he could get away with, and stuff like pinching off that
doods´s head with the big sheers in Frankenstein, was just the most hilarious and campy stuff around.
And Nico was smoking, till she wasn´t.
The Factory is an interesting movie. Sort of.
JL
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Dec 12, 2011 - 04:34pm PT
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Andy and my mom were cousins. I never got to meet him, unfortunately, but grew up loving his sense of irony, which seemed to go right over most people's heads.
(During the Lonesome Cowboys shoot they were being continuously surveilled by the FBI, on the prowl for deviants. What a circus.)
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Dec 12, 2011 - 05:08pm PT
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I guess there came a point in the art world of the early sixties when it became inevitable. A resurgence of the Dada sensibility in the context of the post-war/me-generation/consumer-culture explosion, so somebody had to ride that wave.
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Gene
climber
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Dec 12, 2011 - 05:09pm PT
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Can anyone explain to me why this 'masterpiece' by Warhol was purchased for $100,000,000.00?
This is one of the times that I don't care that I don't get it.
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cintune
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Midvale School for the Gifted
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Dec 12, 2011 - 05:15pm PT
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Can anyone explain to me my this 'masterpiece' by Warhol was purchased for $100,000,000.00?
So they can warehouse it for a few years and then sell it for even more.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
(Bowie did an awful impression.)
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phylp
Trad climber
Millbrae, CA
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Dec 12, 2011 - 10:23pm PT
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JL, have you ever listened to the John Cale/lou Reed album "Songs for Drella"? It's a favorite of mine...
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