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john hansen
climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 6, 2011 - 01:40am PT
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I was wondering what kind of Bivy gear Robbin's and Lauria used on the second ascent.
Were they still hanging in hammocks ,or did they use a "Bat tent" or some other technology,,
I think Harding and Rowell had Bat tents when they got rescued on SFHD
This might be kind of an interesting topic ,in a time line sort of way .
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
bouldering
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I think they were so indignant about the bolt-count that they refused to even sleep there.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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hey there say, .... a bump for john....
this sounds intereting, even though too "out of my knowledge range" for me to chip in... :)
happy to see you here, today...
wow, hope you get some more info, john... and feedback...
:)
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Don Lauria
Trad climber
Bishop, CA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 07:35pm PT
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Better late than never. Just ran across this thread.
We used "net" hammocks that Royal supplied - these in lieu of his "Robbins" hammocks which I was manufacturing at that time (actually it was my mother-in-law that did the sewing). I don't remember his reasons for not using the rip-stop nylon hammocks of his own design, but I remember the reason I hated the "net" hammocks. The dropped M&Ms were not retrievable.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Apr 17, 2012 - 08:27pm PT
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A net hammock, that must have been pretty exciting!
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 09:59pm PT
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Tom Frost borrowed this net hammock from Yvon for the second ascent of the Dihedral Wall with Royal.
Maybe Tom fooled him into believing that the net was the ticket!
Royal used the first "Robbins two-point" that Liz sewed.
This ascent was the first use of hammocks on El Cap.
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Apr 17, 2012 - 10:07pm PT
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Wow, it looks like it would be hard to make coffee in that thing.
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Apr 17, 2012 - 10:22pm PT
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High adventure versus skycamping...and the winner is?!?
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Apr 17, 2012 - 11:47pm PT
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To each his own, Steve, there is no need for a "winner".
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Dennis Hennek
climber
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Apr 17, 2012 - 11:52pm PT
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Its never to late Don. I used a Cassin net hammock on the Muir Wall, it also didn't catch any stuff, but it could be used from both single or two point anchors somewhat comfortably.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Apr 18, 2012 - 12:07am PT
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Careful Steve, Mark just might send your turning point ala vacation style.
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john hansen
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2012 - 12:08am PT
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Cool to see this re-surface again and get an answer straight from the source.
Thanks.
And to Dennis Hennik ,I guess the key phrase is "somewhat comfortably".
Can't imagine getting any sleep in that thing. But after 15 hours on a wall
it probably beats hanging in your slings..
Did you guys ever use them at belay stances too?
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elcap-pics
Big Wall climber
Crestline CA
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Apr 18, 2012 - 12:20am PT
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I "slept" in the Robbins model a few times and it was awful. Just an overgrown buttbag! The "good old days" were not so good for some things!
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Apr 19, 2012 - 12:24pm PT
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Maybe the question gets answered in Steve's thread above, but when and where was the first hanging bivy?
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Gene
climber
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Apr 19, 2012 - 12:31pm PT
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Mark,
This doesn't answer your question but is still cool. From the YCA website.
Salathé teams up with Anton “Axe” Nelson to climb the Southwest Face of Half Dome in a 20 hour marathon using 150 piton placements. Salathé’s hard steel pitons hold up well in the bottoming cracks. The two men spend a miserable night standing on a small stance waiting for daylight. This was the first Yosemite bivouac on a climb. They did not place any bolts on the route and it becomes the hardest route in Yosemite.
http://www.yosemiteclimbing.org/content/john-salathe-and-yvon-chouinard-camp-4
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