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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Original Post - Dec 14, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
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I was dismayed to see a post on Facebook the other day reporting that a woman had gone missing. While I don't know her personally, we have a dozen mutual friends. She basically vanished without a trace on Friday and as of Sunday night, still hadn't been heard from. As word spread, total strangers started sharing the missing-person alert to their profiles, which was inspiring. Still, I had a bad feeling that she wouldn't be found alive, if ever, especially after a report came in that police had roughly located her iPhone (via cell-tower triangluation) to a bad part of Emeryville - a place she would never have gone.
Late Sunday night it was reported that she had escaped her abductors and called police, and was confused and scared. A bit later her husband posted that the police had located her and that she was being transported to the hospital. Yesterday she posted to FB that she had been carjacked, beaten, ect, and that she had been painted with white paint and told that her new name would be "White Out". She wrote that someone helped her escape with some of her stuff and told her to run.
I was already having a knott-so great week, and this really sent me over the top. The irony is that she is a healer / bodyworker and very loving to all people - the last type of person you could imagine this happening to. I'm sharing this here because I needed to vent.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Dec 14, 2010 - 02:49pm PT
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maybe i am a moron....maybe i lead a sheltered life and don't ever think about racism....but i assume that she was black painted white? hard to tell from your post.
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dirt claud
Sport climber
san diego,ca
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Dec 14, 2010 - 02:54pm PT
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Sucks what she went through this, but very happy to hear she was able to get away. Hope she is doing ok.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
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She is white. She was told her new name would be "White Out". I'm going to go out on a limb and assume the cretins weren't Caucasian, but what do I know?
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Dec 14, 2010 - 03:04pm PT
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HK, I'm sorry to hear about your friends' friend.
While it is no consolation to her, or to anyone else who has suffered racially motivated abuse -- from insults all the way to physical violence and murder -- we have, as a society, made huge steps forward over the last two centuries. Most of us, especially those in large cities, live in the middle of a racial stewpot, and the amazing thing is that for the most part we don't even notice race any more.
Sadly, there are still of people who still live in the racial dark ages, and some of them do things like this.
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dirtbag
climber
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Dec 14, 2010 - 03:13pm PT
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I'm all for due process for the accused.
But I think the process that is due here involves several baseball bats.
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Dec 14, 2010 - 03:15pm PT
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Hardman...do KNOT surf the 4 chan site. Do KNOTT!
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Dec 14, 2010 - 03:17pm PT
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Wow that sucks. I hope she's doing well.
Focus on someone helped her escape with some of her stuff and told her to run.
At least one of them had the guts to go against the mob and help her.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2010 - 03:23pm PT
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Right on guys. I should have used the world "hate" instead of "racism" - it seems unnecessarily inflammatory. These creeps obviously hate women, but I can't escape the feeling that it wasn't at least partially racially motivated.
The other night I was talking to some Koreans in my cab and they were saying that they didn't like being called "Asian-Americans" or "Korean-Americans" - "we are just Americans"...
I said "cool, I guess you can't call me Scottish-American then". We all had a good laugh.
I made the point that it's these types of characterizations that keeps segregation alive, and they agreed.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Dec 14, 2010 - 04:35pm PT
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HK, sorry i didnt get it the first time. i was envisioning white paint.
prosecute the MFer's with a racial crime, and use the baseball bats....
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Dec 14, 2010 - 06:28pm PT
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tami,
i would have said the same thing whether they were black, brown, aisn, purple, white....whatever...you know that somettimes the LAW actually arressts the RIGHT guy. hard to believe i know....
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Dec 14, 2010 - 06:36pm PT
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Inexorably the human race is hybridizing, mixing it's strains.
Though we have made advances against racism it is moribund by its very nature in a modern world.
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DanaB
climber
Philadelphia
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Dec 14, 2010 - 10:09pm PT
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..........but , instead, you have some innocent but badly beaten brown guys, a pissed off community & the offenders still at-large.
Can you imagine another possibility?
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Homer
Mountain climber
742 Evergreen Terrace
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Dec 15, 2010 - 02:24am PT
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I'm sorry HK - that's a bummer. Violence sucks.
From your article fattrad:
(The census data) suggest that all the talk about a post-racial society means nothing at the level of neighborhood.
Also from the census data - 1 in 3 African American children lives in poverty. 1 in 9 African American children has a parent in jail - half for drug or nonviolent offenses.
You telling the youth don't be so violent when you drop bombs on every single continent?
Mandatory minimum sentence cause he got caught with a pocketful of medicine.
Do that again - another ten in the pen.
Makes me so mad I want to bomb an institution.
Michael Franti
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Delhi Dog
climber
Good Question...
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Dec 15, 2010 - 02:48am PT
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I gotta go with Locker on this one.
Sorry too for your friends...
Glad she came out of it.
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Dec 15, 2010 - 03:16am PT
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Shitty people will be shitty.
Invite her to ST and she will make some good friends.
Unless she is conservative : / then there might be some friction.
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Homer
Mountain climber
742 Evergreen Terrace
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Dec 16, 2010 - 12:59pm PT
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Also from the census data:
Hate crimes:
Against Whites: 749
Against Blacks: 2,658
Normalized by population, blacks are 220 times more likely to be the victim of a hate crime than are whites.
On an individual level, no doubt, that sucks for our friend.
On a racial level, that sucks for blacks.
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