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B. Russell
Advanced climber
degnans deli
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 18, 2002 - 09:23pm PT
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What should be done about the zodiac pitch 5 bolt ladder?
a. chop the new ladder to restore the route to the way Porter climbed it on the first ascent.
b. chop both ladders and replace Porters bolts with new ones.
c. nothing.
d. chop the whole route, zodiac sucks, and it's been climbed too many times anyway.
e. other?
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Wall Rat
Intermediate climber
The Gutter
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2002 - 10:03pm PT
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Here we go again.....Bill, how many holes have you drilled in the valley??? You forgot to mention b2) chop the Porter route (properly), restore it, and leave the other VARIATION as is. Bill. how many oe's have you had this evening? I don't think you posses (as in pose) the power or desire to go chop those bolts, even with your Coiled new rope. Try this one instead... how many holes (bolts, rivets, dowels, bat-hook, chicken,...whatever) have been drilled into El Cap -- TOTAL EVERYWHERE??? I'd say quite a few (it would be interesting to know how many, exactly...), so, you take the number of "offensive" holes on the VARIATION pitch, divide that by the TOTAL number of holes.... and you get a VERY small number, translating to NBFD!!! As for the whole route, let it be...I'll go do it again someday, maybe even go replace the old ladder (with fresh 1/4"ers, of course).... better that than it becoming all 3/8"...... the new "sea of metal".... Bill, don't take it too personally; I'll buy you a 6er (OE800 'o course) at THE Deli next time I see ya!! ps... those bolts are 5/16 BH..... they 'aint comin' out!!!
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sharon needles
Novice climber
compton
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2002 - 10:29pm PT
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5/16 buttonheads eh? "ain't comin' out"? what have you been smoking this evening. i think we know what ms. russell would like to have done to that pitch and i believe it just might happen. but we all know russell can't leave the love of his life (oe800) long enough to get the job done, and he can't carry a jillion gold cans up there.
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Softguy
Novice climber
I wuz the guy inside C3PO
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2002 - 11:25pm PT
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Why bother. It's way too much work. I would rather drill freshies,...if I could find any... You guys should check out the C3PO and Stormtrooper gear - it's great for taking those scrapper and cruncher whippers!! You hardly feel a thing... although a suit IS pretty expensive, IF you can find one. Why use screamers when you can have body-armor instead???????
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confused
Novice climber
7th grade
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2002 - 11:41pm PT
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Is Ms. Russell a he??? -- the first bolt-chopping transvestite???
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joe
Novice climber
tacoma
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 18, 2002 - 11:54pm PT
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i would choose d. then the next party could do a first ascent.
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Minerals
Advanced climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2002 - 02:18pm PT
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I don't think we can chop the old route (p 5). That WOULD be changing the route, and as we all know, you'd never escape the verbal wrath of Mr. Way. Another note on speed ascents... the actual route taken should be specified with the times. A speed ascent that has utilized the variations on p1 and p5 should not be considered a true ascent of the Zodiac - more appropriately, a variation ascent. If we are going to record ascent times with such precision, then accuracy of the actual path should be taken into account. I don't mean to harp on the speed climbing stuff, I think it's way cool. Hey, I was lucky enough to get a ride with Superman's elevator service last summer and it was ULTRA BITCHIN'!!! My slow ass just can't go that fast without a tow. You don't even have time to drink a beer!!
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