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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Jun 10, 2010 - 06:43pm PT
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You can get a solo permit. I know several folks who have done so in recent years. I have seen many folks soloing on Rainier. No one has ever given me a hard team about being roped or not.....
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RDB
Social climber
way out there
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 10, 2010 - 07:04pm PT
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Currently it is illegal to be above 10K without a rope and without a solo permit. Solo permits can be had with a little effort and some warning time wise. You can not get a permit to climb Rainier, solo, with out first getting a solo permit beforhand.
Two permits required, one to climb and one to solo.
Soloing legally on Rainier is not all that common.
Soloing illegally is. Hopefully the poll will help change
those statistics.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jun 10, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
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Just say no to bureaucracy.
You don't need permits in other Nat Parks, other than Denali, what makes
Raindeer special? They don't do it to limit the numbers, do they?
BITD they would try to break your ice axe, like that is relevant.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jun 11, 2010 - 12:23am PT
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Dr. F's post suggests that he may have "going rogue" tendencies.
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RDB
Social climber
way out there
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2010 - 11:50am PT
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I'd bet there are two more here who have gone rogue more than once on Rainier :)
I am so surprised that the NPS actually wants climber feed back that I am trying to take advantage of it and get a few improvments in the system. Suggestions are welcome or even better are your letters to the Park Service!
I had suspected a big percentage of the solo climbers on Rainier were doing so without a permit. I am really surprised from the small amount of data we have been getting that the non permit solo climbers are dbl that of those that do get a permit and register with the park.
Even more interesting is 65% of the climbers who do solo avoid the NPS staff, doesn't matter if they registered or got a permit.
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Jun 11, 2010 - 01:12pm PT
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Permits are required in many more than 2 places in the US. Some are parks and some are forests. Some are free, and some have fees. SOme are disguised are camping permits.
Mt. Whitney
Mt. Hood
Mt. Adams
Mt. St. Helens
Mt. Shasta
That is just a sampling of where I had to have a permit to be on a route.
Let's not forget the Cables Route!!
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Ottawa Doug
Social climber
Ottawa, Canada
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Jun 11, 2010 - 02:50pm PT
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I soloed Sunset Ridge on Rainier in August 1980.
No permit, no people, no bull $hit. Rewind below:
Summer 1978 I went to register to climb Rainier with friends and the Rangers gave me a tough time for not having enough experience. I go back 3 or 4 years later and when they ask for a resume of what I have climbed - I tell them - and they don't believe me. Idiots. This is why people avoid registration.
That is why climbing in europe is so inviting. You don't have to register to go to the bathroom. (oh, and can my mommy come with me?)
: )
Doug
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RDB
Social climber
way out there
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 11, 2010 - 05:19pm PT
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Great story Doug.
"Mt. Whitney
Mt. Hood
Mt. Adams
Mt. St. Helens
Mt. Shasta"
And none of them are National parks, nor do they single out "solo" climbers.
You have to get a learner's permit to drive...but that has about as much to do with the topic as St Helen's permit does.
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