TheHip
Trad climber
Squamish, BC
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well-bolted is an understatement! I'm a pretty cautious climber and was skipping bolts because I didn't feel like clipping twice from the same stance.
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bones
Trad climber
San Diego
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This thing is a joke since being retrobolted. You'll spend more time clipping bolts than climbing rock. Seriously, it's a bolt ladder and would still be perfectly safe and not runout at all if every other bolt after the second bolt was chopped. Someone should really fix this mess.
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Matt M
Trad climber
Alamo City
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Yep - lot of bolts on this one now. Two ropes to get down from the chains. Good route though.
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HandCrack
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal.
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The current state of affairs as of Oct. 9, '03:
There are 16 bolts to the first anchor (two bolts, slings and rings). Then there are three more bolts to a chain anchor. Thus if you clipped one bolt at the lower anchor you'd need 20 draws plus something for the top anchor. Set up as is, you can descend with one short rap and one long one with a single 60 meter rope.
It seems a bit odd, this sport climb amidst all these trad routes. The bolts didn't bother me, I clipped'em all. The climbing was great sustained edging up a beautiful varnished face.
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HandCrack
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal.
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The current state of affairs as of Oct. 9, '03:
There are 16 bolts to the first anchor (two bolts, slings and rings). Then there are three more bolts to a chain anchor. Thus if you clipped one bolt at the lower anchor you'd need 20 draws plus something for the top anchor. Set up as is, you can descend with one short rap and one long one with a single 60 meter rope.
It seems a bit odd, this sport climb amidst all these trad routes. The bolts didn't bother me, I clipped'em all. The climbing was great sustained edging up a beautiful varnished face.
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HandCrack
Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal.
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The current state of affairs as of Oct. 9, '03:
There are 16 bolts to the first anchor (two bolts, slings and rings). Then there are three more bolts to a chain anchor. Thus if you clipped one bolt at the lower anchor you'd need 20 draws plus something for the top anchor. Set up as is, you can descend with one short rap and one long one with a single 60 meter rope.
It seems a bit odd, this sport climb amidst all these trad routes. The bolts didn't bother me, I clipped'em all. The climbing was great sustained edging up a beautiful varnished face.
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Anyone been on this route this fall, and know if the added bolts are still there?
Greg
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Chris McNamara
SuperTopo staff member
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The American Safe Climbing Assn. may have replaced anchor bolts on this climb. To find out visit the ASCA Replacement Page
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Phantom Fugitive
Social climber
Misery
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that's too bad.
I climbed it a couple years ago with the 9 bolts. It was a memorable climb and had great character. Sounds like someone didn't like it's great character.
PF
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BCD
Trad climber
Misery
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Yup,
Looks like this route has been SERIOUSLY retro-bolted. The guidebook lists 9 bolts, Supertopo lists 10, I counted 16 to the first anchor, and it looked like the route kept going....
At one point I was able to clip TWO bolts from the same stance (with a long reach).
I'm not sure what the ethics are in Red Rocks, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone chops those bolts in the near future.
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Archie and Deb
Intermediate climber
Misery
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Nice face climb on varnish.
Note that your topo is apparently out of date. There are now 18 bolts on the pitch. It appears that new bolts have been placed between the first 8 shown on the topo. Now a very secure lead (if you brought enough draws)!
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