Outer Limits, The Cookie Cliff 5.10c

 
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Yosemite Valley, California USA

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Tork

climber
Yosemite
Apr 28, 2010 - 12:42pm
 
Bummer! Nice incut hold after the initial left leaning hand crack is flexing big time. This hold is guna blow. I think its my fault, I'm getting to fat. Pull down, not out.
outdooreric

Trad climber
Mammoth
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   Jul 1, 2007 - 12:56am
I thought the first pitch was about 10b like the book says, not 10c as its shown here. Also, bringing extra 2-2.5" pieces will work, but they have to be placed deep in the flaring crack requiring runners on each placement (they still felt tipped out to me). I thought 3" pieces were more secure and easier to place in the 40 feet of wide hands in the middle section.
Greg Barnes

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   Dec 25, 2006 - 02:19am
Climbed this again today, fine weather and no one around! Chris mentions below that you can just barely TR this pitch with a 60m rope. That's not quite right unless you have an unusually long 60m rope, you need a 70m if you are TRing from the base. The 105' length in the ST guide is about right. A 60m is only long enough if you swing right to the big blocks when lowering, or swing right to just below the big blocks when rapping.

Awesome climb except for the polish in the first section. Clean your shoes well to avoid making it even more slick!
casey

climber
oakland
Sep 19, 2005 - 02:09pm
 
wow, really fun route. brought 2 #2s and 2 #3s, i saved one of the 2s for the top part past the roof. maybe a little run out below but those are bomber jams for me.

super enjoyable.
poop*ghost

Trad climber
Denver, CO
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   Mar 17, 2004 - 01:38pm
I got by with 2 #2's and 1 #3... to keep the rack lite, you can add a hand size hex to toss into the constriction before the wide hand crack leading to the roof. But the crux of the route seems to be getting to the big pod, mostly on thinner gear.

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THE MAD BOLTER

Big Wall climber
CARLSBAD, NM
Feb 23, 2004 - 02:21pm
 
I reset the anchor at top of Elevator Shaft-Cookie area last year. stainless hdware
Nor Cal

Trad climber
San Mateo
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   Feb 21, 2004 - 01:58pm
I think that 3-4 #2 camalots is in order as well as 2 #3 camalots.
I put 1' slings on my pro to help my gear not to walk in.
Colt45

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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   Feb 17, 2004 - 07:46pm
A beautiful crack, but polished and very continuous. I had 2 #2 camalots, 1 #3, 1 #3.5 and this was not enough--I had to lower partway up to backclean. Those with a streak of boldness could probably get by with this rack, but the ideal setup might be more like 3x #2 and 3x #3, and maybe even 1-2x #3.5.

Due to the inward flare of the crack, I felt like #3 was most reassuring higher up.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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   Sep 6, 2003 - 12:38am
If you're not feeling pumped enough when you near the chains on Outer Limits, you can keep going and, instead of doing the traverse to the Elevator Shaft, head for the anchors of Orangutan Arch. It's another sweet stretch of bomber jams but the final moves are tricky (10c?) but the fall is clean (as I observed when a friend of mine didn't pull it the first time.)

From the Orangutan Arch anchors, you are in a way better position to TR Crack a Go Go, which is super fun but tricky to lead.

Peace

karl
poser

Trad climber
emporium, pa
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   Sep 4, 2003 - 11:27pm
If anyone finds the skin from my left wrist on this climb give it back. The rock took it by force when my foot slipped and I had to catch myself. Great route though. I found it incredibly pumpy (but then again I usually just pretend like I'm a climber). Ditto about the #2's. I got by with 2, but wouldn't have minded another.
Matt M

Intermediate climber
emporium, pa
Nov 29, 2002 - 02:49am
 
Yep - #2 camalots or something similar are a must here - 4 might be overkill but i wouldn't have complained with three hanging off the harness. Funky things about this crack... it flares IN at times so those bomber cams might open right up if they walk to far in. fyi
Charles

Intermediate climber
emporium, pa
Oct 30, 2002 - 05:26pm
 
Bring all the #2 camalots you have for the first pitch - 4
is a good start, but the more cautious may prefer more.
tom

Advanced climber
emporium, pa
Feb 9, 2002 - 11:12pm
 
Walk about 100 feet right of the start of Outer Limits to check out the Twilight Zone. The big corner's left side is the Elevator Shaft (5.8). The Zone is the obviously horrendous offwidth to the right of this. Bring your big cams and tape. Chuck Pratt led this thing without protection when it was first done. And you thought huevos were something people ate for breakfast.
Chris McNamara

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   Jun 8, 2001 - 01:38pm
Pitch 1 is, steep, pumpy and wild. Pitch 2 is polished and technical and i felt was far harder than the first pitch. With a 60m rope you can just barely toprope the first pitch. Run a few laps on Outer Limits and you are guaranteed to get a really wicked pump.
The Cookie Cliff - Outer Limits 5.10c - Yosemite Valley, California USA. Click to Enlarge
Photo: Todd Snyder
 
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