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GhoulweJ
Trad climber
Sacramento, CA
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Dec 11, 2009 - 11:59pm PT
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#3 thawk
yes please
I expect I will use it more on ice though
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Dec 12, 2009 - 12:09am PT
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You can open a beer with anything that's metallic, and has a firm edge. Sheesh!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Dec 12, 2009 - 12:48am PT
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b-Yes.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Top of the 5.2-5.12 Boulder
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Dec 12, 2009 - 10:30am PT
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Haha!
Taunts! & catcalls!
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 13, 2009 - 05:44pm PT
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Back to being serious…
#3 Pecker! Let’s hear it!!!
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Dec 13, 2009 - 06:04pm PT
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Very cool guys. Didn't check this thread before. Wow!
Like the thoughful and well thought out designs. When you make a better mouse trap they will come flocking. Cheers to your success.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Top of the 5.2-5.12 Boulder
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Dec 13, 2009 - 06:10pm PT
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Actually, Bryan, I can see some uses for it....I'd venture a bet that I'm not the only
one, either. Cheers, Bro.
Glad you didn't freeze.
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Mark Hudon
Trad climber
Hood River, OR
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Dec 13, 2009 - 07:08pm PT
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These things look great. They look like they would be a good part of the ticket for clean climbing something like the Groove Pitch on the Shield.
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shipoopoi
Big Wall climber
oakland
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Dec 14, 2009 - 12:01am PT
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bryan, i use a #3 pecker when it is needed for big clearance of extruding rock and you need that clearance to get to where the piece can get some bite. i think a number 2 and number 3 tomahawk would be well received. thanks for the number one, they are so niiiiiiice. shipoopoi
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Dec 14, 2009 - 12:52am PT
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I use these mostly for mixed routes when I think I might be able to get a blade in the rock, or, dirt, log, etc...
Been meanin' to pick up some newer ones. I do like being able to clip a biner straight to them, for racking at least.
Might work...
Oh, yeah, bomber...
So, yeah, I'd probably try a larger beak or two.
Cheers,
-Brian in SLC
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ninjah
Big Wall climber
a van down by the river
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Dec 14, 2009 - 01:32am PT
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don't know for sure but i heard reports this summer in the valley that some used close to 30 # 3 pecks( thay only had ten so thay back cleaned a bunch) on just one pitch!!! the shield i think. so if thats true,, than yes bryan, please make me some #3 sized tomahawks.
thanks
shayd
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Dec 14, 2009 - 01:55am PT
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righteous, you guys got the a-ok from shipoopi!
can't wait to see if I end up using mine next weekend on Pinnacles rock.
should be, er... entertaining?
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jack herer
climber
veneta, or
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Dec 14, 2009 - 02:41am PT
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i think the large style peckers are an essential peice on the rack. i climb on a lot of loose rock and use tons of #3 peckers. i would buy a larger size if it was made.
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rick d
climber
ol pueblo, az
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Dec 14, 2009 - 09:08am PT
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I'd say make the full run of sizes. Jeremy opened my eyes and showed me I could live w/o 80% of my LA's and KB's with more pointed things (peckers, toucans, and beaks).
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2009 - 01:56pm PT
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Wow, killer feedback!!! Thanks, all!!!!!
So, even though we are not designing the Tomahawks for ice, you hardcore types will probably use them for the frigid stuff, as well as for the solid stuff, eh? I think the curved stem of the Tomahawk would reduce leverage in placements such as the “wood” placement pictured.
Weight is not a huge concern if necessary for proper geometry of the larger #3 size? Is there any reason to consider a #4 Tomahawk, or would this be a very specialized piece, mainly for use in crap rock?
I have a couple of BD Specters and a couple of the Pika ice pitons that I modified for the Fisher Towers back in the ‘90s. I shortened the blades (2 different lengths) and put a taper on ‘em. They worked great, but that was before BD came out with the #2 and #3 Peckers.
We are still planning on making 3 versions of the #2 Tomahawk - straight, left, and right. At some point, a camming Tomahawk will come in left and right versions – got a prototype here but need to get out to test it (snow is not a good testing medium…).
“…we need sawed off angles that have a hooking/camming stem as well.”
Yeah, Mike… I was thinking about that the other day – would be pretty cool!
I know what cam hooks look like, and Mallards… got any photos of the other Pika gear that you like and can be expanded upon? Can’t go too close to 90°, like the Mallards, because hooking action is lost, which is how the Tomahawks work so well. Torque… yeah, thinking about that more.
Any other hardware trinkets that are no longer made, yet should be made? Any other ideas for stuff that you would like to see available?
Thanks again!!!
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 14, 2009 - 01:59pm PT
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Get some rebar, grind a point on it, slam it, bang it, into the ice.
Instant tomahawk ....
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Minerals
Social climber
The Deli
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Topic Author's Reply - Dec 14, 2009 - 02:04pm PT
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Werner, can you make a prototype and send it to me??? ;)
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T Moses
Big Wall climber
Paso Robles
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Dec 14, 2009 - 03:19pm PT
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Mike.:
I'm a horrible tease but in the end I deliver and it's worth it.
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Gene
Social climber
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Dec 14, 2009 - 03:50pm PT
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What Mike. said. Props guy.
#24
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Top of the 5.2-5.12 Boulder
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Dec 14, 2009 - 06:04pm PT
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HUZZAH! Huzzah! Huzzah!
Theron & Mineral Boy!
WooHoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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