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Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Jun 2, 2008 - 09:11pm PT
People hate change, there was a lot of rejection to splitting up the linked forum, myself included.
But after it was done, everybody like it.

This place could get by with two or three tabs, two if you ditch the buy/sell, which might be ok since people probably do not sell gear that often.

But this place needs at least one more button.
A BS room would take away %90 percent of the posts, and this would leave all the climbing topics in one place.

We took a vote on what to name the rooms.
There are also moderators over there, in case things get real whacked.
I do not see the need for any Mods here, the only time was when the guy got drunk and wanted to punch out the other guy, then they meet at the bridge and the guy ends up helping haul gear.
That was pretty cool, and a indicator that you do not need a moderator here.

OK, so what do I have to solo to get into the club?
Peer pressure has no place in climbing.
It gets people killed.
That is why I will probably be climbing alone, among other reasons.

I did not mean old climbers, I meant experienced climbers.
Which may be young or old.

If you have a well working forum, it can attract some pretty good people.
We have engineers from JBL, MacIntosh, owners of studio equipment companies, microphone builders, you name it.
It took a while, but got to be a pretty good forum.
Jingy

Social climber
Flatland, Ca
Jun 3, 2008 - 12:00am PT
I'd like to quote a good friend, Mike, who must have repeated it a hundred times this weekend...

"The sense of community is uncanny!"

Fish Finder

Social climber
THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART
Jun 3, 2008 - 12:39am PT
hey dr rock,

FYI.. If you click the number of replies ( 108 ) instead of the thread title it will take you to the
last page of the thread.

Fish Finder Analogy ( supertopo forum changes ) .........a fine wine ages in a dark cellar, no light, and is only turned a few times before enjoyed.

this forum is just fine as is .

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber
valley center, ca
Jun 3, 2008 - 02:18am PT
Fish Finder, I pretty much agree with you. I love this forum as is. lrl
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 3, 2008 - 02:21am PT
This place could get by with two or three tabs

that would have us fried for a bit...
Wonder

climber
WA
Jun 3, 2008 - 02:27am PT
I just want to see more huckin'..

Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Jun 3, 2008 - 02:43am PT
This is the best climbing forum, that is true, so if it ani't broke...
I understand that.
But it is growing like crazy.
So it may be fine now, but believe me, at this growth rate, you will need to add another room.


It might be 6 months from now, but I bet it will happen.

There is a four week wait for the belay class at Planet Granite, if you need proof at the growth rate of this sport.

The best way to handle it, when the time comes, is to take a vote on it, let the forum community dictate the direction.

Thanks for the tip on getting to the last post.

These photo albums are cool, but realize that if you post 10 pics of high pixel stuff, the guys with a 56k dial up are really going to suffer, so it is best to post the pics as links so it does not take 5 hours to view the thread.
This place might go world wide eventually, so those folks in the Outback are really going to suffer.

BTW, Are there some HTML tags for shrinking links at this place?
I hate to explode the screen, but sometimes no choice.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jun 3, 2008 - 02:58am PT
uh, you got those tabs?
Jaybro

Social climber
The West
Jun 3, 2008 - 03:09am PT
"This place could get by with two or three tabs,"
-or, even better, without!


Wonder, you realize that photo is off topic and must be buried in the nether regions that D'rock advocates, right?
He is looking out for us, for our own good!
Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Jun 3, 2008 - 03:10am PT
How many you need?
You can not get good acid nowdays.
It's all a bunch of strychnine.
Leary just died, so yeah, that Moody's song makes more sense.
Did Owsley have a rock climbing relation?
Finding good acid is as hard as finding those cool metal 35mm film canisters with the screw on lid that are perfect keeping your weed in, remember those?




You don't think the Stonemasters ever ate mushrooms and went out night climbing?
I bet half the FA's in the 70's were "drug aided".

Have you seen Vertical Frontiers?
Cool climbing video.

The inventor of nylon, ie climbing rope, took some bad acid:

":On April 28, 1937, Carothers went to the Experimental Station to work. The following day he committed suicide in a lonely hotel room in Philadelphia by taking cyanide dissolved in lemon juice, knowing that the ingestion of cyanide in an acidic solution would greatly intensify the speed and effect of the poison. He left no note."
Wonder

climber
WA
Jun 3, 2008 - 03:32am PT
Yeah Jaybro, but it's our leader. MrMac.
Doug Buchanan

Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
Jun 4, 2008 - 02:26pm PT
The balance is perfect in all things.

The most freedom produces the zenith of human ability/knowledge.

There are many forums of less freedom which satisfy those who want to efficiently see what they have already learned.

Genuine climbers seek something beyond that.

All those who fear new knowledge do much to prevent others from learning it, for fear of it, especially National Park Service mountaineering rangers and unwise forum moderators.

Enjoy the show.

DougBuchanan.com
KlimbIn

climber
Jun 4, 2008 - 02:49pm PT
Dr.Rocks wrote, among other things:


There is a four week wait for the belay class at Planet Granite, if you need proof at the growth rate of this sport.


Yup this forum is just right for that audience... especially with tabs or rooms or photo albums.


of high pixel stuff, the guys with a 56k dial up are really going to suffer, so it is best to post the pics as links so it does not take 5 hours to view the thread.


When I have a slow connection, I turn off displaying /downloading pictures. You can do that in all the browser's I've ever used. I like the way pictures display right now on here. Clicking this and that tab / album, is a waste of time IMHO.


This place might go world wide eventually, so those folks in the Outback are really going to suffer.


Dang I thought there were only these types of weirdos on the left coast.
Eddie

Trad climber
San Francisco
Jun 4, 2008 - 03:16pm PT
Apologies if it has been suggested or is stupid...

Rather than having two or more sections, could there just be a filter tab on the main forum page:

View All : View Only Climbing : View Only OT

When you create a new thread, you just check a box that says Climbing or OT and it gets tagged that way. That's it.



For the record, I like it the way it is and definitely don't want it divided or complex.

I think that doing the above would leave it just like it is (just never change the default "All" tab), but would add a very simple filter for those days when you want just climbing or just junk.


Pete
Crimpergirl

Social climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jun 4, 2008 - 03:23pm PT
My vote, as always is to leave it the way it is. Any dividing of the forum won't work because many climbing threads quickly drift toward non-climbing topics. Similarly, many non-climbing threads drift and become climbing threads. No way to prevent this (nor should we imo).



UncleDoug

Social climber
N. lake Tahoe
Jun 4, 2008 - 03:34pm PT
The wise see through your BS Jeff.
nature

climber
Santa Fe, NM
Jun 4, 2008 - 04:15pm PT
Though I tend to agree that we should leave it alone I'd love to see one more tab on top like the Photos and Forum tabs. It would be called Trip Reports.

These threads rarely get turned into anything but a TR. They typically get read but often get not enough responses to keep them floating.

What I'm suggesting isn't really geared towards changing this forum but rather adding a whole 'nother feature to this site.

But it won't happen so that's cool.
Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Jun 4, 2008 - 05:26pm PT
You can always go back to the old style forum if you try something and do not like it.

This place scrolls three to four pages a day.

You want a room that scrolls a page a week, and a room that scrolls a page a day.

The scroll rate today is insane, and getting worse by the moment.

The better the layout, the better the people you attract.
Usually, the "heavies" do not participate in forum politics, they have better things to do.

An extra room means another ad or two that can go up.

The ads here are very unobtrusive, so I am sure nobody would notice an extra ad or two in another room, which means more payback for Mr. Mac. I am sure he likes doing this, but it is a lot of work.

If you have a room that is designated as the BS room, you can go in there and clean the back end out every 90 days to free up server space.
That way you can leave the important stuff on forever.

Funny thing, when we put the BS room up at the other forum, it got more traffic than the topical threads.
I guess people like forums first and foremost, for just shootin the stuff with people they have something in common with.
I mean if you wanna be just a chat room for climbers, thats cool.
But a forum where you could learn something about rock climbing, that would be even better.




Just my 2 cents.

happiegrrrl

Trad climber
New York, NY
Jun 4, 2008 - 05:37pm PT
How about adding just one more tab....and calling it "the Neatly Categorized Version."

When the user clicks on the tab, it takes them over to rc.com....

hyuck, hyuck.
Dr. Rock

Ice climber
Castle Rock
Jun 4, 2008 - 05:44pm PT
What does being a good climber have to do with knowing how to run a forum?
Just curious.
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