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climber
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Sep 14, 2018 - 08:30am PT
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Yea I definitely count myself among the ranks of the righteous nature lovers. But if I’m gonna be honest to myself about what really matters to me, I’m just not all that broken up over all those dead dinosaurs.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Sep 14, 2018 - 03:04pm PT
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Did BD assume a conviction is a foregone conclusion?
I bet Yengich would get the photos suppressed.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Sep 14, 2018 - 03:12pm PT
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Ouch
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Mill Valley, Ca
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Sep 14, 2018 - 03:14pm PT
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Oopsie!
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 15, 2018 - 09:12am PT
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Was he packin'
Yewah, I think so. How else could he shoot the Water Dept guy?
The San Diego Fire-Rescue Department bomb squad found and took the cache Sept. 7 while serving what is known as a “gun violence restraining order” against the homeowner and accused shooter, 79-year-old Nathan Brogan, officials said.
The weapons stockpile included an AR-15 with a 200-round drum magazine, 34 additional rifles and 21 handguns taken from Brogan’s home, the City Attorney’s Office said.
The bomb squad also removed 75,000 rounds of ammunition as well as explosives, among them a smoke grenade and 4.5 pounds of loose black powder.
When you have an arsenal like this, how do you choose what to shoot the Water Dept guy with (BTW he chose a shotgun_}
[img]https://media.nbcsandiego.com/images/1200*675/Brogan+weapons+thumbnail.jpg
SAN DIEGO (KGTV) — Federal agents seized a huge haul of meth and heroin being trafficked at a San Diego restaurant this month.
Gun guy was not the dealer, probably just a user
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Bad Climber
Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
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Sep 15, 2018 - 09:32am PT
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Those are some cool ol' classic shootin' irons. The broom-handled Mauser is a classic! I've always wanted to shoot one of those. I actually had a job working for my father who was manufacturing replacement grips for those things. Production wood working helped convince me to stay in college. LOL.
BAd
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Sep 15, 2018 - 01:47pm PT
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Looks like they put the wife on administrative leave, which basically means they eventually fire her. Bummer.
They have 2 kids 10 ish in age - probably getting picked on.
If I were Andrew, on my most pissed off day, I would have taken that stuff down and left it either at the base of the tree or at the trailhead - not taken it home - for the kids to find.
If I were a Momo real estate agent, I wouldn't have lied publicly about the value of that junk to my customer base.
If I were the wife, I would have said "have a nice time, I'll be here with the kids", and if I were Andrew I wouldn't have asked her to go with.
Meh - fuk 'em all. SLC culture is a mess.
They'll probably have to move and find different jobs - but they'll be fine - educated, smart, willing to work - always does fine.
That real estate agent is going to return to the trailhead someday to find his truck burned out.
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Oldfattradguy2
Trad climber
Here and there
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Sep 15, 2018 - 02:06pm PT
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Many issues here, over the years AM has done more to ruin BC skiing in the Wastach than almost anybody else. He has also done some great work to protect it. But he started drifting away from the protection to be more of a property rights advocate. Many might disagree with me on him ruining the BC skiing but he used as a form of his own self promotion, perhaps he could not figure out a way to promote himself without it. Kind of like the Duck/ trout unlimited model of hey let’s save the critters so we can kill them. That said these these groups do more than most to preserve the environment and do an awesome job along with groups like rocky Mtn elk, the shame being that part of the environmental aspect of BC protection will be damaged.
The sad thing is that many know AM and his advocacy work ( note I will admit working with him on wpg and wba stuff until he deleted me from his address book). His actions are going to put a big sh#t stain on the relationships of some environmental allies.
Having spent 1,000’s of hours working to preserve the Waatch BC I often spoke with hunters who shared a Kindred spirit, this is now likely damaged.
Man, am I glad I left SLC.....it is Likely glad I left...
Todd
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Ain't no flatlander
climber
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Sep 15, 2018 - 06:20pm PT
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"If I were a Momo real estate agent, I wouldn't have lied publicly about the value of that junk to my customer base."
Just curious, do you know this for fact? That photo showed Andy hauling out a rig that looked like it could rival a good portaledge. And game cameras can easily exceed $500 depending on features. So JLP, what in your professional opinion is that stuff worth?
It's amazing they've both screwed up their lives so much for an irrational hatred of hunters, or so it appears.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Sep 15, 2018 - 07:43pm PT
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Stealing peoples stuff is bullshit regardless of motivation. I'm personally not a fan of hunting - but if it's legal and they have a tag- it's not our place to police it regardless of how distasteful you find it. If you ever come across equipment you feel is " trash" or " abandoned" or feel a hunter is out of bounds- call the BLM or the USFS or Fish and Game to go deal with it. It's not your job to mess with people's personal property. Mess with the wrong hunter you may end up with a gun in your face. In this case- the stuff was locked with cameras on it- clearly not " abandoned". This couple jeopardized their careers and reputations with their self-righteous attitude - which is a shame since they seem like decent folk otherwise .
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Sep 15, 2018 - 10:08pm PT
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Geologicallly speaking...This is a non-event...The poor hunters won't starve to death....Nothing will change...Don't leave your stupid toys out in the wilderness...
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
ne'er–do–well
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Sep 15, 2018 - 11:55pm PT
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... call the BLM or the USFS or Fish and Game to go deal with it.
No thanks.
The man is looking for anyone dumb enough to say anything-so they can pounce on them. If you burp or fart -that's another infraction.
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PinkTaco
Mountain climber
Utah
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Sep 16, 2018 - 01:12pm PT
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I always thought that bow hunting was about “sport”.
How are camera’s and platforms enabling sportsmanship exactly?
In my opinion it is watering down the purist aspect of the activity to a level as low as its lead-head cohorts have taken their “sport”. How can you even feel like you have accomplished anything if you have cheated so badly during the process? Have some self-respect, stop cheating. Give yourselves a chance to be sporting.
Cool that this topic has appeared on a climbing forum. There are definitely some parallels with the birth of "sport" climbing and the bolting issues!
Just a thought: What if Andrew and Polly were to have instead placed their own locks on that stuff, and their own cameras watching their locks and their cameras? Who would be at fault when a lock gets cut?
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Trump
climber
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Sep 16, 2018 - 02:22pm PT
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Have some self respect people!
But don’t have self respect the way that you yourself think you should do it, for the reasons that you think you should respect yourself, have self respect the way that I in my opinion think you should do it, for the reasons that I think you should respect yourself, like if I were you.
My opinion is that we’ve each got this self respect thing already covered, maybe all too well.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sep 16, 2018 - 04:41pm PT
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Speaking of sporting, hunting season opened at my climbing crag this weekend. The 4x4s were going back and forth on the dirt road near my campsite starting at 4am. Are they hoping for a shot from their vehicle? Do they try to freeze the deer with lights? Weird sport.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 16, 2018 - 05:05pm PT
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Weird sport.
They say the same about YOU and your weird obsession with jumping around on rocks like monkeys .....
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sep 16, 2018 - 05:15pm PT
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They have no idea there is climbing in the area as most don't go 50 yards from the road.
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 16, 2018 - 05:20pm PT
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And .......
They are Trump voters giving you a good dose of Karmic reactions for all your past st00pid political diarrhea drool.
There IS NO ESCAPE ......
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sep 16, 2018 - 05:21pm PT
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My little stalker just loves me.
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