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Jingy
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Somewhere out there
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Nov 24, 2014 - 07:44am PT
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the win goes to?????
locker!!!!
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Nov 24, 2014 - 08:09am PT
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Yet, here we are.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Nov 24, 2014 - 09:11am PT
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barry, of course: overreaching executive power for me, but not for thee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf0dBCveWUk
i'd vote for ted cruz just for the pleasure of watching him troll libs with his "pen and a phone" attitude of executive power...for starters, stop all prosecution of people who refuse to pay taxes (any guesses on how many libs would continue to give their money to the gov?)
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 24, 2014 - 09:23am PT
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dirtbag
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Aug 3, 2013 - 01:28pm PT
HEY RIGHT WINGERS...
Where is your outrage over a recent war started by a republican administration...you know...the guys you voted for TWICE...
that was started under FALSE PRETENSES, gross INCOMPETENCE, and outright LIES...
and that killed OVER 1000 TIMES MORE AMERICANS than the four killed in Benghazi?
If you are not seething in anger over that war...
And if you are not DEMANDING CONGRESSIONAL INVESTIGATIONS into the incompetence and outright lies leading to that debacle...
Then SHUT THE F$#K UP, you miserable HYPOCRITES!
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crankster
Trad climber
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Nov 24, 2014 - 09:32am PT
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OK, a fresh week, let's see what the ST righties have come up with for specific Republican policy proposals they support:
stop all prosecution of people who refuse to pay taxes Hmmm, that's pretty nutty.
Republicans currently hold the governorship and both houses of the legislature in 23 states, while Democrats have that level of control in only seven." OK, yes, we know that...re-stating the obvious. How about a follow up with some ideas?
LIBS legalized skank weed yeah, we know what The Stump thinks...oh, man, gonna be a long week.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Nov 24, 2014 - 10:05am PT
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just heard a list of a bunch of the bills that got passed during the 70+ days the dems had control of sh#t all while cleaning up after baby bush and his frat house friends...
pretty impressive...
Repubs would never put so many humanity into law.. they can only hinder, block and stall progress...
repubs they are pathetic.
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2014 - 11:00am PT
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Unfortunately, what I wrote a year ago is still true, Apogee.
And lookie, Butthurt is butthurt again. So Kos is, by Butthurt's definition, a "stalker." Too friggin' funny.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 24, 2014 - 11:12am PT
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That quote will last the ages, dirt.
And will never receive a direct response from anyone who considers themselves a 'Republican'.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 24, 2014 - 11:20am PT
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"Play ball or I'll go around you".
Ummm...isn't that pretty much what Obama has done here?
He put this issue to Congress repeatedly...that they should address the issue & take action...and (the Republican) Congress (especially) didn't do jackshit about it.
So he's going around them. So what?
And if a future POTUS doesn't like it, they can repeal it in a heartbeat. If the new Republican Congress doesn't like it, they can create new laws to override it.
Pretty much puts the fire under the feet of the new Republican Congress, donchathink?
Edit: '...reveling in last year's butthurt."
You don't have any friends or family that were directly affected by the Iraq war, do you, Sketch?
To refer to that debacle as 'last year's butthurt' is unbelievably callous to those families & friends whose lives were destroyed or forever changed by that disaster.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 24, 2014 - 12:05pm PT
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What is disingenuous, Sketch, is 'shrill' ranting & raving about Benghazi, or virtually any other action Obama has taken, in comparison to the Party that literally destroyed the lives of thousands of Americans, then left power with the economy a smouldering disaster.
Nothing that has happened in the last 6 years comes close to that kind of mess. Whining about Obama's recent 'Executive Action' is just pathetic, in comparison.
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Norton
Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
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Nov 24, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
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Let us clarify.....
over a year ago the Democrats in the Senate passed a very comprehensive Immigration bill
and sent it over to the Republican House where Speaker Boehner has refused to allow it to be
put to a vote for fear of it being passed and becoming law
for those one or two here who seem to live and breathe every post to criticize, consider yourselves
now educated to put the "blame" that you delight in leveling, squaring on the people you vote for
clear now?
=requests for Sketch..
let us hear you relentlessly criticize the Republicans for having the Presidency, House, and Senate for six straight years from 2000-2006, for failing to pass Immigration or Healthcare
surely you are not going to say that they were too busy watching the economy go into Recession?
just to show you are capable of unbiased analysis, Sketch, let's read your criticisms
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Nov 24, 2014 - 12:29pm PT
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Just keep your ranting in perspective, eh, Sketchster?
To repeat:
"Play ball or I'll go around you".
Ummm...isn't that pretty much what Obama has done here?
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dirtbag
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 24, 2014 - 12:44pm PT
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Stalker! Lol.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 24, 2014 - 01:14pm PT
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What is disingenuous, Sketch, is 'shrill' ranting & raving about Benghazi, or virtually any other action Obama has taken, in comparison to the Party that literally destroyed the lives of thousands of Americans, then left power with the economy a smouldering disaster. [emphasis in original]
With all due respect, apogee, the identity of the political party that literally destroyed the lives of thousands of Americans is, to put it mildly, subject to debate. (well, except that whichever party ousted its opponents may have "ruined" the lives of the oustees). The housing bubble and its bursting had bipartisan roots, but Mssrs. Dodd and Frank were more than a little responsible for continuing to prop up housing years after more foresighted voices were pointing out the danger.
I would also note that the real economic troubles started after the Democrats regained control of Congress. But all that takes away from the all or nothing sort of analysis that contemporary American political entertainment demands.
On a rather different note, it saddens me to see personal squabbles again, puarticularly since Dave Kos has generally provided some of the most balanced and insightful commentary here, and Sketch has not exactly been a one-party shill, either. I enjoy the presence of both of you enough to hurt when either attacks the other.
John
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Nov 24, 2014 - 02:20pm PT
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If you are trying to flatter me, John, that really fell short.
Big time.
LOL! No, I'm not trying to flatter anyone. I'm telling you that I think quite highly of your opinions expressed on ST. OK, part of my high opinion of you is that you actually read my posts (as shown by the quote above) and respond to what I say, but I really do value what you have to say, so I don't like seeing you personally attacked.
John
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Nov 24, 2014 - 02:32pm PT
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can't wait for repubs and dems to come up with some infrastructure solutions!
we'll see what happens!!!
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Nov 24, 2014 - 03:27pm PT
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Because it wins them elections.
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crankster
Trad climber
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Nov 24, 2014 - 03:49pm PT
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Yes, Rude Pundit, yes.
11/21/2014
Things That Wouldn't and Won't Happen in the Wake of President Obama's Immigration Action:
Last night, President Barack Obama announced a compassionate, legitimate executive action for undocumented immigrants in the United States. Predictably, as happens when any politician acts to take care of the poor and dis-empowered, Republicans lost their f***ing minds or were just lost and confused, predicting all sorts of doom for the future for Obama. Please, bitches. Stop being such obvious liars.
1. Republicans were never going to pass immigration reform. It wasn't going to happen. They had a chance to pass the Senate bill, which had megabucks for "border security," but House Speaker John Boehner, fearing the base of his party, wasn't ever going to vote on it, nor a future bill unless it's a bullsh**, worthless one.
2. On NPR yesterday, Rep. Tom Cole, an Oklahoma Republican, made all kinds of possible threats. Again, f*ing please. Cole said that Republicans, when they run the Senate, might not approve of any of Obama's nominees for anything. Motherer, Republicans blocked most of that when they were the minority. What do you think was gonna happen now? They were never gonna approve sh.
3. South Carolina's Jeff Duncan said that the Republicans could force Obama to veto spending bills (and somehow convince people that Obama shutdown the government). If immigration was not an issue, Republicans would threaten a shutdown over something else. It's not your regular tactic.
4. Texas Senator John Cornyn said that Obama "poisoned the well" for cooperation. Man, you bastards poured arsenic into that thing in 2009. Stop acting like your best buddy betrayed you. Stop acting like, if Obama hadn't done this, it was gonna be two years of grab-ass and giggles between the President and Congress.
5. As far as what won't happen, the House might impeach Obama, sure. But they won't get him out of office. You're not gonna arrest him, and you're not gonna successfully sue him. What the GOP is gonna do is figure out how the hell to save face with Latinos while keeping the crazies who vote in the primaries satisfied. So that probably means huffing and puffing and not doing a goddamn thing.
6. By the way, as far as prosecutorial discretion goes, most Republicans sure weren't upset when the Justice Department didn't pursue charges against Wall Street investors and bankers who nearly tanked the economy. That was f***ing amnesty. This is a simple, humane act. It's not being dicks, something the right just can't imagine.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Nov 24, 2014 - 03:50pm PT
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I would also note that the real economic troubles started after the Democrats regained control of Congress.
Sorry JE,I do not buy any of that.
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