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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Skipt..There wasn't any health insurance when the Constitution was written...Doh!
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Republicans and their ALEC friends have done a great job of supplanting the entire economy with their ideas. They say that they want choice... but they don't back up what they say with actions anywhere resembling choice.
Here's the thing: Let's just run with a hypothetical to show the dimmer what I mean.
Let's say that instead of the banks getting the bailout the American people got the bailout (not that we need it or anything, but in the right's view of things the people don't really matter all that much).
What might happen?
Some people pay off their homes that they sank themselves into so much debt for, and they go on keeping up with the Jones's not learning a thing.
Some people save the extra money for they know that there may be rough times ahead and having the extra savings might do some good later. This has an added benefit of supplying the banks with the much needed capital that they could use to pay off some of their bad debts, but that gets into an area that I have no knowledge of (frankly speaking.... I have less and less knowledge of more and more these days).. This savings process also allows people a choice of where they want their money do go, in other words if people had their money in a bank they thought was ripping them off, chances are they would take their new money and put it somewhere else. If enough people followed, the bad bank would be suffocated, and put out of business.... darwin was right... survival of the fittest.
Some people would go out and start spending money in the market place because they think that there is no tomorrow and its best to get while the gettin's good, after all what's money good for anyway? This creates a situation where the people have a choice on where their money goes, thus feeding the bigger fish keeping them alive. Jack wants a new TV. He visits a local big box or little mom 'n' pop store and spends. Jane goes out and buys her new wardrobe (because that's important to her), Bobby needs new shoes, Sally has always wanted to express her inner submissive so she buys the spike studded doggie necklace. Survival of the fittest here too.
This, to me, is the definition of "choice".
This is not what the Republicans would ever stand behind.
This runs contrary to their entire philosophy.
This is sacrilege to any conservative.
Why?
Well, the money goes to the people who need it instead of the ultra-rich and monied interests who put the politicians in power.
The bailouts were for the 2000's what Reaganomics was to the '80's. Nothing but making life easier and easier for the rich, and more difficult for the poor, less fortunate, underemployed and general rabble.
Like I said, Republican/ALEC players don't want any of that kind of choice.
Its been years and none of the people or companies that have benefitted from any of the taxes cuts (remember... they are the job creators, right, so we should tax them less so that they can create more jobs). But they haven't provided a thing. They haven't made life better for much of anyone below $100,000 income level.... $50,000... Less than them?
All I know is if you are not one of them (not only in their board meetings and dinner functions but in their income and tax bracket as well) then you should be starved.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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For example: It doesn't say the Government can tell us that we have to buy insurance from a government sanctioned company (read corrupt) at a price the company sets. No, Obama gave us this disaster.
The fact is, Obama wanted a system by which there was a Gov't alternative that folks could go to to buy health insurance.
The insurance companies balked at this so, they sent out their armies to knock down the what would have been a great system.
Remember Palin's "death squads." Finally, we have this abortion of a health-care system, one that nobody wanted, but since so much time and energy was spent trying to address the horrendously broken system, anything was seen as being better than nothing.
The system that we now have is nothing like what Obama wanted. It's a direct result of the GOP stonewalling the good plans, and making us end up with something that will never be implemented.
Perfect work, guys, perfect work.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Hey, Donald - so nice to see that you're still posting and still an idiot. Keep those pictures coming - they represent devastating insights and certainly put me in my place.
Look up the word "Fascism" in a dictionary. The word is spelled F-a-s-c-i-s-m. A dictionary can be found in a library. That's spelled l-i-b-r-a-r-y. Be careful, though, some of those books - that's b-o-o-k-s - can be quite heavy, and you might drop one and hurt your foot.
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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The only way his big speech on Thursday would be really effective
at creating jobs.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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This is going to be fun to watch unfold!
FBI arrests prominent Democratic campaign treasurer
http://www.ocregister.com/news/durkee-315349-campaign-county.html
Federal Election Commission records show that Durkee is the treasurer for Feinstein and Sanchez, who could not be reached Saturday. California Secretary of State records show she currently serves as the treasurer for at least 113 state-level committees. Those committees include campaign accounts for Solorio, D-Santa Ana; Assemblymen Gilbert Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, and Roger Hernandez, D-Baldwin Park; State Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Torrance and Curren Price, D-Los Angeles; Los Angeles City Councilman Paul Krekorian; and former Orange County lawmaker Tom Umberg.
Durkee also oversaw the political-action committees of the Democratic Party of Orange County and the Democratic Foundation of Orange County, among others.
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apogee
climber
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Government is bad.
Until you need it.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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TGT...what is Texas unemployment rate...think quick?
Just think how high it would be WITHOUT all those government jobs.
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apogee
climber
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Got the day off today, Lois?
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
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I feel like I have died and gone to heaven.
....we can only hope.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sound a bit familiar
Antifederalist No. 9
A Consolidated Government Is a Tyranny
"Montezuma," regarded as a Pennsylvanian, wrote this essay which showed up in the Independent Gazetteer on October 17, 1787.
We the Aristocratic party of the United States, lamenting the many inconveniences to which the late confederation subjected the well-born, the better kind of people, bringing them down to the level of the rabble -- and holding in utter detestation that frontispiece to every bill of rights, "that all men are born equal" -- beg leave (for the purpose of drawing a line between such as we think were ordained to govern, and such as were made to bear the weight of government without having any share in its administration) to submit to our Friends in the first class for their inspection, the following defense of our monarchical, aristocratical democracy.
1st. As a majority of all societies consist of men who (though totally incapable of thinking or acting in governmental matters) are more readily led than driven, we have thought meet to indulge them in something like a democracy in the new constitution, which part we have designated by the popular name of the House of Representatives. But to guard against every possible danger from this lower house, we have subjected every bill they bring forward, to the double negative of our upper house and president. Nor have we allowed the populace the right to elect their representatives annually . . . lest this body should be too much under the influence and control of their constituents, and thereby prove the "weatherboard of our grand edifice, to show the shiftings of every fashionable gale," -- for we have not yet to learn that little else is wanting to aristocratize the most democratical representative than to make him somewhat independent of his political creators. We have taken away that rotation of appointment which has so long perplexed us -- that grand engine of popular influence. Every man is eligible into our government from time to time for life. This will have a two -- fold good effect. First, it prevents the representatives from mixing with the lower class, and imbibing their foolish sentiments, with which they would have come charged on re-election.
2d. They will from the perpetuality of office be under our eye, and in a short time will think and act like us, independently of popular whims and prejudices. For the assertion "that evil communications corrupt good manners," is not more true than its reverse. We have allowed this house the power to impeach, but we have tenaciously reserved the right to try. We hope gentlemen, you will see the policy of this clause -- for what matters it who accuses, if the accused is tried by his friends. In fine, this plebeian house will have little power, and that little be rightly shaped by our house of gentlemen, who will have a very extensive influence -- from their being chosen out of the genteeler class ... It is true, every third senatorial seat is to be vacated duennually, but two-thirds of this influential body will remain in office, and be ready to direct or (if necessary) bring over to the good old way, the young members, if the old ones should not be returned. And whereas many of our brethren, from a laudable desire to support their rank in life above the commonalty, have not only deranged their finances, but subjected their persons to indecent treatment (as being arrested for debt, etc.) we have framed a privilege clause, by which they may laugh at the fools who trusted them. But we have given out, that this clause was provided, only that the members might be able without interruption, to deliberate on the important business of their country.
We have frequently endeavored to effect in our respective states, the happy discrimination which pervades this system; but finding we could not bring the states into it individually, we have determined ... and have taken pains to leave the legislature of each free and independent state, as they now call themselves, in such a situation that they will eventually be absorbed by our grand continental vortex, or dwindle into petty corporations, and have power over little else than yoking hogs or determining the width of cart wheels. But (aware that an intention to annihilate state legislatures, would be objected to our favorite scheme) we have made their existence (as a board of electors) necessary to ours. This furnishes us and our advocates with a fine answer to any clamors that may be raised on this subject. We have so interwoven continental and state legislatures that they cannot exist separately; whereas we in truth only leave them the power of electing us, for what can a provincial legislature do when we possess the exclusive regulation of external and internal commerce, excise, duties, imposts, post-offices and roads; when we and we alone, have the power to wage war, make peace, coin money (if we can get bullion) if not, borrow money, organize the militia and call them forth to execute our decrees, and crush insurrections assisted by a noble body of veterans subject to our nod, which we have the power of raising and keeping even in the time of peace. What have we to fear from state legislatures or even from states, when we are armed with such powers, with a president at our head? (A name we thought proper to adopt in conformity to the prejudices of a silly people who are so foolishly fond of a Republican government, that we were obliged to accommodate in names and forms to them, in order more effectually to secure the substance of our proposed plan; but we all know that Cromwell was a King, with the title of Protector). I repeat it, what have we to fear armed with such powers, with a president at our head who is captain -- general of the army, navy and militia of the United States, who can make and unmake treaties, appoint and commission ambassadors and other ministers, who can grant or refuse reprieves or pardons, who can make judges of the supreme and other continental courts -- in short, who will be the source, the fountain of honor, profit and power, whose influence like the rays of the sun, will diffuse itself far and wide, will exhale all democratical vapors and break the clouds of popular insurrection? But again gentlemen, our judicial power is a strong work, a masked battery, few people see the guns we can and will ere long play off from it. For the judicial power embraces every question which can arise in law or equity, under this constitution and under the laws of "the United States" (which laws will be, you know, the supreme laws of the land). This power extends to all cases, affecting ambassadors or other public ministers, "and consuls; to all cases of admiralty and maritime jurisdiction; to controversies to which the United States shall be a party; to controversies between two or more States; between a State and citizens of another State; between citizens of different States; between citizens of the same State, claiming lands under grants of different States; and between a State or the citizens thereof, and foreign States, citizens or subjects."
Now, can a question arise in the colonial courts, which the ingenuity or sophistry of an able lawyer may not bring within one or other of the above cases? Certainly not. Then our court will have original or appellate jurisdiction in all cases -- and if so, how fallen are state judicatures -- and must not every provincial law yield to our supreme flat? Our constitution answers yes. . . . And finally we shall entrench ourselves so as to laugh at the cabals of the commonalty. A few regiments will do at first; it must be spread abroad that they are absolutely necessary to defend the frontiers. Now a regiment and then a legion must be added quietly; by and by a frigate or two must be built, still taking care to intimate that they are essential to the support of our revenue laws and to prevent smuggling. We have said nothing about a bill of rights, for we viewed it as an eternal clog upon our designs, as a lock chain to the wheels of government -- though, by the way, as we have not insisted on rotation in our offices, the simile of a wheel is ill. We have for some time considered the freedom of the press as a great evil -- it spreads information, and begets a licentiousness in the people which needs the rein more than the spur; besides, a daring printer may expose the plans of government and lessen the consequence of our president and senate -- for these and many other reasons we have said nothing with respect to the "right of the people to speak and publish their sentiments" or about their "palladiums of liberty" and such stuff. We do not much like that sturdy privilege of the people -- the right to demand the writ of habeas corpus. We have therefore reserved the power of refusing it in cases of rebellion, and you know we are the judges of what is rebellion.... Our friends we find have been assiduous in representing our federal calamities, until at length the people at large -- frightened by the gloomy picture on one side, and allured by the prophecies of some of our fanciful and visionary adherents on the other -- are ready to accept and confirm our proposed government without the delay or forms of examination -- which was the more to be wished, as they are wholly unfit to investigate the principles or pronounce on the merit of so exquisite a system. Impressed with a conviction that this constitution is calculated to restrain the influence and power of the LOWER CLASS -- to draw that discrimination we have so long sought after; to secure to our friends privileges and offices, which were not to be ... [obtained] under the former government, because they were in common; to take the burden of legislation and attendance on public business off the commonalty, who will be much better able thereby to prosecute with effect their private business; to destroy that political thirteen headed monster, the state sovereignties; to check the licentiousness of the people by making it dangerous to speak or publish daring or tumultuary sentiments; to enforce obedience to laws by a strong executive, aided by military pensioners; and finally to promote the public and private interests of the better kind of people -- we submit it to your judgment to take such measures for its adoption as you in your wisdom may think fit.
Signed by unanimous order of the lords spiritual and temporal.
MONTEZUMA ?
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apogee
climber
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From skipt's article:
"Democrats may soon have to confront an uncomfortable truth, and ask whether Obama is a suitable choice at the top of the ticket in 2012. They may then have to ask themselves if there's any way they can push him off the top of the ticket."
I'll ask that question...no problema.
We need a real democrat in office, not the DINO who sits there now.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Funny sh#t here from Fat and the rest of flat earhters.
Obama numbers are right were Reagan and Clinton at the same time in their first term. Of course both got elected easily to second terms.
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apogee
climber
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If the GOP candidate is Sarah or Bachmann, Obama will win easily.
If it's Perry, he's in bigggg trouble.
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apogee
climber
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"I have switched my support from Bachmann to Perry hoping he can take his foot off the religious accelerator."
Ummm, so he will be moving at 60 mph instead of 80 mph? That's still waaaaaay too fast for this 'separation of church & state' kinda guy.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Apogee wrote: If it's Perry, he's in bigggg trouble.
Are you trying to be funny???
Perry's is the biggest hypocrite of the bunch, has a brain the size of centipede, thinks SS is a ponzi scheme and lies like a rug.
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apogee
climber
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Hypocrite? Did that stop Shrub from two terms in office? Hypocrisy isn't any kind of barrier to office for Repugs- the GOP will spin that candidate right into the minds of the droids like a Jedi mind trick.
Dems, on the other hand, are waaaay vulnerable to hypocrisy. We haven't had a Dem POTUS with any spine since, what...LBJ, maybe?
Perry doesn't have the public persona of one of the whacko Teabaggers like Bachmann or Palin (even though he probably is)- and he will certainly get the RR out to vote. Unless some realllly scary skeletons come out of his closet (which could happen), he is definitely the strongest GOP candidate.
Edit: Let's be clear....there's a big difference b/w what makes a good POTUS vs. the candidate's persona that is created to gain votes. Obama has proved this quite handily, to my eye.
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jstan
climber
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about one million American attempted suicide last year, according to the report.
Nearly half of all Americans experience mental illness at time point(sic.) in life.
According to the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), about half of all Americans will experience some form of mental health problems during their lifespan. THE CDC defined mental health problems as ranging from depression to post-traumatic stress disorder to suicide, noting that often these mental health problems are not addressed.
The new CDC report, “Mental Illness Surveillance Among Adults in the United States,” describes the extent of mental illness among U.S. adults and recommends increased efforts to monitor mental illness and anxiety disorders.
Most shocking from the report is the cost associated with treatment and loss of productivity.
There are “unacceptably high levels of mental illness in the United States,” said Ileana Arias, principal deputy director of the CDC. “Essentially, about 25 percent of adult Americans reported having a mental illness in the previous year. In addition to the high level, we were surprised by the cost associated with that — we estimated about $300 billion in 2002.”
It still remains unclear as to why there is a high rate of mental illness in the U.S. or what factors are influencing mental health.
It has been shown that mental disorders have a link to chronic illnesses, including cancer and heart disease. Additionally, psychiatric illness and other mental health issues are surrounded by stigma, which adds to the burden.
A 200 survey performed by the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration found that about 11 million people experienced serious mental health illnesses during the past year. This represents about five percent of the population. Additionally, about 84 million Americans reported having suicidal thoughts and 2.2 million Americans made plans to kill themselves, over the past year. Unfortunately, about one million American attempted suicide last year, according to the report.
These numbers may seem alarming, but more importantly, it brings attention to an overlooked issue. Mental health illnesses are increasing in the U.S. and understanding for how to help people deal with them is important. Thus more programs should be made available to help people and their families.
http://www.thestatecolumn.com/health/cdc-mental-illnes/
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