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monolith
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SF bay area
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Aug 25, 2013 - 09:36pm PT
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Those are deadliest hurricanes, Chief. What an idiot.
Sandy wasn't called a superstorm for nothing.
We are able to give extensive evacuation warnings now.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 25, 2013 - 09:42pm PT
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Duh, that's what I'm trying to tell ya Chief. Try to focus.
Deaths don't really mean much today with our forecasting abilities.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 25, 2013 - 09:47pm PT
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Does SuperStorm Sandy mean anything to you Chief?
It was a combination of events that worked together to form one of the largest financial loss storms in history.
2nd largest financial loss, with Katrina being the largest. Both early in the 21st century.
Yep, Bharata, NYC does not get a lot of damaging hurricanes.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 25, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
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And you are so positive about that? LOL.
The Alberta disaster this year was also a 'perfect storm' of events.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Aug 25, 2013 - 09:54pm PT
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Fallacy of logic....
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 25, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
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Chase yer tail much?
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 25, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
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Yes, you can't prove exactly what mix of conditions causes a hurricane, a twister, a heat wave here of there, a coldspell here or there, so who in their right mind could prove CC and it's exact causes. Makes you wonder doesn't it? What an arrogant scam CAGW is!
Oh, and your reply post of this morning Ed- what a crock of shet, except for good science being able to make true predictions of the physical world. An ability most lacking in the majority if not entirety of CAGW science. So let's cut through the b.s. and talk about science that actually has a track record of true predictions.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 25, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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O.K., please make us some near term (1-2 year) predictions based upon what you consider the best available climate science. Then we can compare it to predictions of the same term from the guys on the other side of the fence. Your guys are now calling it "Climate Change", so what are the near term changes?
Let's drop the "political beliefs" and call it what it is- philosophical beliefs. Politics is the practice and advancement of a philosophy among other things.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 25, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
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They say we are in the midst of anthropogenic climate change, do they not? So once again please drop the b.s. and let's here how your guys expect this change to manifest itself over the next few years. You, better than anyone here can understand the twisted, contorted logic, values, predictions of "The Science", so let's here it. The claim that you cannot discern the changes until long after we are all dead and stinky just doesn't cut it.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Aug 25, 2013 - 10:49pm PT
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Politics is the practice and advancement of a philosophy among other things.
So is Science!
You guys are fun to watch
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mountainlion
Trad climber
California
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Aug 25, 2013 - 11:08pm PT
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Sorry Chief but the hurricane or tropical storm that hit Galveston caused so much damage due to the bulk of the population living on a sand bar with inadequate or non-existent sea walls...in addition the population on the island were ill prepared for any natural disaster as it was a resort city...just a recollection from my elementary school years as I was an avid reader like you...
how is that exercise routine going? Have you started? Good Luck it is hard to have 10 extra lbs. weighing you down...did you know 1 lb of fat contains 30 miles of capillaries? It's hard for the heart to pump enough oxygen to the brain to think clearly with 10 lbs of fat to pump through first...get off your ass and get in shape!!!
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Aug 25, 2013 - 11:19pm PT
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I'm a bit disadvantaged in that my two and a half tall pile of papers are in Ak and i'm currently in NV. However, i remember the science and scientists that i derive my expectations of future climate from to an extent. Based on what i have read and have the capability to understand clear predictions can be made. You see, these climate scientists that i have confidence in don't make their papers deliberately nebulous or their predicted course of events so far in the future that none of us alive today will be alive to fact check. Based upon the works of Easterbrook,Gray, Abdussmatov, Svensmark, and non peer reviewed works of Bastardi, i made a few predictions last spring. If you care to check you will see that their was an expectation for recovery of Arctic sea ice this year and into the future. I also predicted, based upon farmer's planting news, that there might be a bad harvest and shortages this year in northern hemisphere crops. The first prediction is so far accurate. The second looks less so because of great growing conditions due to plentiful rainfall, increased co2, and a moderate if late summer in the lower midwest. The jury is still out in the upper midwest and canadian bread basket as the harvest quantity is dependent upon the remaining growing days. Now what besides an ice free arctic, increased tornadic activity, increased and more severe hurricane season, record heat waves vastly outpacing cold weather, did your guys predict for this and near term years?
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command error
Trad climber
Colorado
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Aug 25, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
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We climbers know better than most that when you do stuff wrong
bad things happen. Making excuses sucks.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 26, 2013 - 11:29am PT
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Even your own graph, Chief shows the declining sea ice extent. One year doesn't make a trend, idiot.
One year doesn't make a trend, idiot.
One year doesn't make a trend, idiot.
One year doesn't make a trend, idiot.
One year doesn't make a trend, idiot.
One year doesn't make a trend, idiot.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 26, 2013 - 11:33am PT
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Dumbass, I'm not claiming this season is a decline in extent.
The 201x's average so far is well below the 200x's average.
The 201x's average so far is just above the 2011 blue line.
Notice the trend or do you need it spoon fed to you like a baby?
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 26, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
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Fortmental is talking about volume, not area, Chief.
You are frighteningly dumb.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Aug 26, 2013 - 12:30pm PT
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^^baffling^^
It's sad when you keep doubling down on stupidity.
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Elcapinyoazz
Social climber
Joshua Tree
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Aug 26, 2013 - 12:31pm PT
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everything short of that
I see what you did there, Dr. H.
Lolz.
Sure is nice of the Chief to posts charts that contradict what he is saying, within the same posts he is saying it. Self refutation, but he's too thick to even realize it. Pitiful really. Doesn't speak well to the educational prowess of the USN.
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dirtbag
climber
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Aug 26, 2013 - 01:03pm PT
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^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^
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