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Hawkeye
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"I think Snowden is a great pacifist. This man has done no less to get the Nobel Peace Prize than U.S. President Barack Obama.”
well joe, lets try again. not to overwork those two braincells of yours....
the above quote is the one i partially agtree with. obama did no more than snowden to win teh pease prize. i have no idea whether snowden is a pacifist.
really, "why did BO win the peace prize?" did he risk death like snowden? no...
so what did BO do besdies BSing you?
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Patrick Sawyer
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Originally California now Ireland
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Uhmmmm, can we keep level heads here?
How this pans out, I do not know. Do any of you Taco Standers?
Is he a traitor or a hero? He certainly exposed a lot of crap (that was already known), but could he have done it in a better way? If he wanted to paint himself as a patriot/whistleblower.
Hell, I do not know. Better him than me, going through this.
I have enough on my plate.
Happy and safe climbing.
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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wow hedge, thats the most intelligent thing you have said the entire thread. how did you manage to get both brain cells working at once?
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WBraun
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Patrick
In this so called democratic society he's considered a traitor.
But .... !!!
Sometimes one has to become a traitor against your own society to reveal the truth.
The intelligent class will understand.
The unintelligent class will not understand.
At this point in time Snowden has become the distraction to the real issues.
Hedge believes his govt. will save him from whatever he believes.
A lot of others do not see in that light.
It takes good intelligence to see thru the whole thing not just the surface that the general media is portraying
as Hedge is being their lapdog, lapping it all up . ....
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WBraun
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I would never NEVER turn on my own country. NEVER.
You do it all the time unknowingly by supporting it's nefarious actions against humanity.
The United States of America does not stand for nefarious actions against humanity.
The Untied States of America has lost it's way and thus you Hedge are a traitor for unknowingly supporting it's inhumane actions.
Better start that digging ....
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Ricky D
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Sierra Westside
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Out of all the tens of thousands of contractors with the same clearance Snowden had, he's the only one with a conscience?
This is your argument of proof - that there are people willing to forgo conscience for a paycheck?
Might shock you that every war crime tribunal parades hundreds of people though the courthouse doors who were "only doing their job". Working for a paycheck does not make it right.
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WBraun
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A lot of people are speaking out from the govt. and have been.
But you're way too stupid to see that since you only gobble up The Huffington Post bullshit .....
You're a completely brainwashed politard .....
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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hedge,
now focus. russia is not communist anymore. (you are starting to sound like a teabagger).
also, russia needs little help from snowden in catching spies.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/may/14/russia-expel-us-diplomat-ryan-fogle
Ryan Fogle, the third secretary at the US embassy in Moscow, was paraded in footage aired on state-run television after being detained late on Monday night by officers from the Federal Security Service (FSB), a successor to the Soviet-era KGB.
He stands accused of being a CIA spy and was declared persona non grata by the foreign ministry on Tuesday .
"A classic spy arsenal was discovered, as well as a large sum of money that doesn't just expose a foreign agent caught red-handed, but also raises serious questions for the American side," the ministry said. "Such provocative actions in the spirit of the cold war in no way help to strengthen mutual trust."
this was back in May, barely two months ago.
now focus again....
NSA deals in cyber intelligence. if snowden does know about spy networks and names of spies, then the USA has a bigger problem than him. rule # 1 in the top secret game is only tell people who needs ot know. we should ahve figured that out with wikileaks. and if we havent, then we are not learning.
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WBraun
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Hawkeye
Hedge is just plain stupid politard.
He doesn't have a clue WTF he's talking about.
He's the fox news equivalent of knowledge.
He's a wing nut pretending he's a patriot.
All the signs are there .....
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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werner,
politicians love guys like hedge. they are spoon feedable.
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WBraun
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You compromise deep cover op-sec, you get people killed.
You jack azz the CIA and your fuked up intelligence agencies has been killing millions of people for years.
You're deluded and it shows .....
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WBraun
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He's your hero Joe not ours.
You're the one who has the huge hard on for him ......
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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"also, russia needs little help from snowden in catching spies."
So, you want them to be caught? Apparently you do.
You are a traitor. Thanks for reasserting yourself, as#@&%e.
that dude caught by russia back in may was a pathetic spy. an embarrassment. see the wig on his head?
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Hawkeye
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State of Mine
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It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
i agree, but....
go check out Dr F's thread on Republicans. the libtards over there done drunk the water. informed? lol not likely.
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WBraun
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What did Snowden reveal that puts people in harms way?
It's simple.
The leaks caused hedge to have to build a bunker in LA.
He's pissed because he has to do some real digging now.
Hard manual labor is not his shtick .......
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WBraun
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Every post I make in this thread has a hidden encrypted code that NSA has to spend 108 years to decrypt.
By the end of that time they will get the message .......
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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In the end the Obama administration is not afraid of whistleblowers like me, Bradley Manning or Thomas Drake. We are stateless, imprisoned, or powerless. No, the Obama administration is afraid of you. It is afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised — and it should be.
Nice desperate attempt at a (probably) final hail Mary.
Curt
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Bargainhunter
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"They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." -Gerald Massey
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