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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 21, 2008 - 01:33am PT
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OK, here we go. Someone posted a link to a review of "Looking for a Ship" over on "pirate thread lite". It's at http://www.johnmcphee.com/looking.htm
Real stuff about piracy.
Bumpity bump.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 21, 2008 - 01:39am PT
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We're not diagnosing - we're mocking. Laughter is often the best medicine.
And yes, I'm teeny bit jealous - it's been a long week, and not over yet. So have a sip of beer for me.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Boise
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Nov 21, 2008 - 03:40pm PT
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I'm sticking with the anvils.
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Nov 21, 2008 - 05:55pm PT
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Yeah, Cap'n, but think about how bad those anvils worked for the Coyote. Like Dirty Harry might have said if he watched saturday morning 'toons, "A man's gotta know it he's the Roadrunner or Wiley E Coyote, before he turns to Acme."
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Kupandamingi
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 21, 2008 - 06:15pm PT
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Thats a great graphic Kulan posted. It should be noted though that the number of attacks per year is global. The big shift in the last 20 months has been that Somalia went from somewhere in the middle to far surpassing the likes of the Nigerian coast and the Straits of Mallorca in Asia to become the most dangerous and heavily pirated waters in the world. Not to mention the fact that many asia acts of piracy are with knives on small cargo ships as sort of a liquor store type robbery versus bands of Somali clansmen attacking supertankers with RPGs
edit - right straights of mallaca, must have had climbing on my mind (imagine that!)
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Nov 21, 2008 - 06:16pm PT
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Strait of Malacca (in case anyone Googles it)
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 21, 2008 - 06:32pm PT
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Not hard to stop. Go to the source, where the pirates are most vulnerable. Convoy and escort merchant vessels in the area, short-term. Get any current hostages out. Embargo the ports in question, if necessary sink some of the pirates. You may not even have to land.
But it would take some organization and political will.
"From the halls of Montezuma, to the shores of Tripoli..."
Guess what the U.S. marines were doing in Tripoli in the 1820s?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Nov 21, 2008 - 06:37pm PT
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Yeah, I pointed that out earlier, Anders.
Tripoli BITD=pirates
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Nov 21, 2008 - 07:22pm PT
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The Jefferson administration has a lot of striking current parallel situations.
Just sayin'.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Nov 28, 2008 - 11:53am PT
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Very bad news - get hijacked by pirates and then blown up and sunk by the Indian navy:
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gB7YMEDuCwwY9ncDOtPAkEI4-H2wD94MO8RG0
Official: Sunken 'pirate' ship was Thai boat
Associated Press - by MUNEEZA NAQVI - Nov. 27, 2008
NEW DELHI (AP) — The pirate "mother ship" sunk last week by the Indian navy was actually a Thai fishing trawler seized hours earlier by pirates, a maritime agency said Wednesday. The Indian navy defended its actions, saying it fired in self-defense.
Fourteen sailors from the Thai boat have been missing since the Nov. 18 battle, which was hailed as a rare victory in the fight against increasingly brazen pirates who have rattled the international shipping industry and created chaos in vital sea lanes. At the time, the Indian navy boasted of sinking the vessel and showed pictures of it engulfed in a fireball.
But on Wednesday a maritime agency and the boat's owner said it was actually a Thai trawler, the Ekawat Nava5, that had been boarded by pirates just hours before.
"The Indian navy assumed it was a pirate vessel because they may have seen armed pirates on board the boat which has been hijacked earlier," said Noel Choong, who heads the International Maritime Bureau's piracy reporting center in Kuala Lumpur.
One of the crew members was killed and another rescued, said Wicharn Sirichaiekawat, the managing director of Bangkok-based Sirichai Fisheries, which owned the boat. Fourteen are still missing.
Sirichaiekawat said they found out about the fate of the boat after speaking to the survivor who was rescued four days later by passing fishermen.........
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Which is a worse problem:
damage done by pirates
or
damage done by trawlers
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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2 different problems. I'd say that since trawlers actually provide a commodity that is in demand, seafood, they are less of a problem.
Pirates only consume resources, time and money...and sometimes shoot people in the face.
I know you'll probably argue that trawlers are damaging seabeds and overfishing, but whatever...that problem is being addressed albeit in a half-ass manner.
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