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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Hey CMac, I'm lookin' for you to reply to my SprayLord thread. Not only is it climbing related, but responding automatically enters you into the comp. Who knows, you might win a guide book...
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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I like this forum and I think it should stay the same. I agree that more restraint needs to be shown by some people (me?), particularly on non-climbing threads, but there is a good buzz on the forum.
Anyway, for the most part, the dross (and those that generate it) does disappear fairly fast.
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justthemaid
climber
Los Angeles
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*(sigh)*Everyone around here is stuck in the mud.
Remember when we switched to numbered pages instead of endless thread posts that stretched into oblivion? I seem to remember a LOT of bitching and moaning. Maybe even a few babies who threw themselves down on the floor kicking and screaming and clutching at the old way. How much better is life now that we have page numbers? Gee! Egads!! Page #'s are kinda nice and haven't changed the flavor of the site at all.
Trust me Chris- in spite of your perfectly reasonable request, no one is going to stop posting the way they want to post. My 2 cents: A split into "Climbing" and "Everything Else" would be a good move and I'm sure (almost) everyone in here is smart enough to figure out whether they want door "A" or "B". ST won't lose it's heart and soul if it becomes a tad more organized and everyone can keep posting in the manner they are accustomed to.
Index is a good idea too.
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DHike
climber
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I wholeheartedly support Chris Mac's plea for restraint from incessant babble on this forum.
Just look at the thread titled 'OK so what do we do about it now?", and one has to ask, WTF?
So, either the forum needs an 'ignore' button or be split into two sections, one for climbing related, one for everything else.
Otherwise, the inmates will continue to run the prison.
Just my $.02
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Splitting the forum into "Climbing" and "other" would hardly degrade it and would make it easier to find the posts you are looking for.
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Trad
Trad climber
Northern California
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May 14, 2008 - 09:31pm PT
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I saw a topic about Forum Rules and this thread came to mind. Chris's original post seemed more directed at the political stuff but the spirit of his post still comes through.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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May 14, 2008 - 09:33pm PT
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I think people overwhelmingly agree that the politics is tolerable, but porn is understood by most to be across the line. That includes partial labia.
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Sanjan
Boulder climber
a prissy pit
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May 14, 2008 - 09:52pm PT
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true that dividing up the forum(s) into many categories lessens the energy level . i hope it will stay in the same format . . and people will heed your post .
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder Colorado
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May 14, 2008 - 10:00pm PT
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seems like a -two tabbed- forum could help kick certain
good aspects into high gear...
simply, climbing and non-climbing
same rules apply, no porn, discretionary use of violent/gore images etc...
chust se kommon senz ztuff
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 14, 2008 - 10:17pm PT
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Hey Chris,
I ditto DR, if I'm screwing up, just email me. I'd rather not post than have you split up ST. As a semi-writer and manager I don't think splitting it up would be good for ST.
Werner is poetic as usual.
Khanom, from years of listening around the campfire, even at the Josh Redux lately, I think climbers enjoy relaxing with the slander, then get into talking about the climbs that may have been great fun or sometimes major epics. (We used to call the really good ones Slander Masters back then.)
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 14, 2008 - 10:43pm PT
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Agree with Geno
Dirtineye or Stzzo - hate to ask but what is a Luddite?
Even if you split all the stuff up and catagorize etc. I'll still need to check all the threads cause even if they wander, someone can pop in with something REALLY great but not totally related.
CHRIS, I SINCERELY MEAN THIS AND HAVE SAID THIS MORE THAN ONCE. SUPER TOPO THE FORUM AND ALL IT'S PEOPLE HAVE SAVED MY BRAIN AND HELPED KEEP ME ON COURSE DURING ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT TIMES IN MY LIFE.
IT HAS RECONNECTED ME WITH CLIMBING FRIENDS FROM THE PAST AND IS NOW PROVIDING ME WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE WILLING TO HELP ME BRUSH UP ON THE SPORT AND START CLIMBING AGAIN.
Flaws occur and when things go South they tend to do so all at once. Stay the course please. I know you will take time to consider all the suggestions and not over react. God Bless you, you are a special person.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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May 14, 2008 - 10:51pm PT
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A Luddite was someone in early 19th century England who resisted the encroaching Industrial Revolution, on the basis that it would put many handworkers (e.g. textiles) out of work. Sometimes by smashing the machinery. It's now often used to describe anyone you want to portray as anti-progress/development/change, e.g. "Climbers who oppose the methods which were used to establish Growing Up on the south face of Half Dome are a bunch of Luddites."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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May 14, 2008 - 11:20pm PT
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Bump for the topic. If you care about the Taco take time to read all the posts.
Mighty Hiker, you're back again. Howdy and thanks for the info.
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Chewbongka
climber
लघिमा
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All you political dry humpers can gargle my hairy nargels!
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Dr. Rock
Ice climber
Castle Rock
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We had the same problem at another forum.
So we broke it up.
A Meta section was started.
This contained info, articles, and links to threads in the forum that had specific info on the subject at hand.
Some new guy wants to know how to build a XXYZ box, we had a Meta for XXYZ box.
This way you do not have to surf for a specific thread that is burried deep.
The search engine here could be improved. That would help.
So a Meta section at this forum might contain:
Routes Without Fixed Gear
How to buy a rope
Camping areas near your rock climbing location
Weather forecast for all the popular areas
Which rack for which rock
You get the idea.
Anyone can be the Meta guy for a specific topic.
Then you add stuff to the Meta as new info comes in.
Also, a Classified section really took off.
It gets more traffic than the regular forums.
People always want to make a buck.
So a Buy and Sell section would probably work here.
Someone goes down to REI with his credit card and buys two of everything.
Then he finds out that he is afraid of heights.
So he sells the gear on the forum.
This place needs a room called the 5.15D room, or the Certified Climbers Only room.
Someplace where the heavy weights can kind of be by thewmselves, discussing important topics.
Then there would be the Scramblers Room.
This is where all the B.S. would occur, along with beginners topics, like where can I buy some rock shoes.
That way, the heavies do not have to scroll down to topics that need to stay on top for development.
If you want an example of how this works, check out this forum.
It is a forum I helped develop on vintage and modern recording equipment for the DIY hobby guy.
The Drawing Board is where the heavies hang out, slow scroll, for topic development.
The Brewery is the BS section.
The Lab is for beginners looking for help
The Black Market is where they buy and sell.
Also, please click on the Meta Meta buttons to see what I mean.
This is the best forum of it's type on the web.
So the setup is working pretty good.
http://www.prodigy-pro.com/forum/
Another idea is to have threads start at the end when you click on them.
I always have to hit the Last button every time but the first time.
Another neat thing is a counter on each thread.
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Chewbongka
climber
लघिमा
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Lynne for Supertopo President!!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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So Dr Rock votes to make this a generic site, noted.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Hey, I knew if I wanted to remain an ST member I better darn well start climbing. lrl
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