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KuntryKlimber
Mountain climber
Rock Hill, SC
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Apr 18, 2008 - 09:07am PT
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Not quite finished brando, done in microsoft paint. my foist ms paint drawing of this kind.
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Brian in SLC
Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
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Apr 18, 2008 - 10:28am PT
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Pretty phenominal adaptation of Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness. Which is a good read if you haven't.
The scene where Sheen surfaces out of the muck and opens his eyes...
Good stuff.
-Brian in SLC
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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Apr 18, 2008 - 10:44am PT
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Ya have to do this...
Read "Heart of Darkness"
Then read T.S. Eliot's "The Hollow Men" Pay attention to the title page. It is a poem that you can probably find online. Very good poem.
Then trip on Mistah Kurtz reading that poem out loud with Dennis Hopper tripping out.
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seamus mcshane
climber
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Apr 18, 2008 - 11:31am PT
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"Some day this war is gonna end.........."
Profound words from Duvall.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 18, 2008 - 11:35am PT
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Somehow I don't think Kilgore meant it as a GOOD thing.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
Arid-zona
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Apr 18, 2008 - 12:08pm PT
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I remember seeing the director's cut in Sanata Barbara when they did the 20 year anniversary. It definitely tied some things together and added some stuff. The Playboy bunnies, for instance, get whored out in exchange for helicopter fuel. Classic.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 27, 2008 - 02:27pm PT
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bump from the heart of darkness
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Ouch!
climber
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Jun 27, 2008 - 04:06pm PT
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jun 27, 2008 - 04:17pm PT
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"this is the end, the only end, my freind..."
the vietnam war never really ended, it just kept on changing venues.
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nutjob
Stoked OW climber
San Jose, CA
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Jun 28, 2008 - 06:12pm PT
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does anyone have the monologue when Brando was talking about what the enemy soldiers did after the kids were vaccinated? I hunted around for it, don't remember enough keywords to find it. but that was the most powerful scene for me. not comic, not great for a one-liner rehash, but it struck my core.
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taorock
Trad climber
Okanogan, WA
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Jun 28, 2008 - 06:35pm PT
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This movie was based on two books. One was Conrad's, the other named Dispatches by Michael Herr. Dispatches is simply amazing.
It was also used for source material in Full Metal Jacket. The fan scene and many other things in Apocalypse Now are from it as well.
Check it out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Herr
While I'm at it, if you are interested in this period of history another great read is Daniel Ellsberg's book:
Secrets: A Memoir of Vietnam and the Pentagon Papers
Once you read it you'll have a new appreciation of IH Scouts (I use to own one BITD)and really being on the ground in a war zone.
The all time mega classic for Vietnam is of course Bernard Falls:
Street Without Joy.
Enjoy
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jun 28, 2008 - 06:36pm PT
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I'm speechless...didn't want to even post a reply...but then I thought how easy to ignore horror. I hate being indoors so rarely go to movies...is this a documented atrocity?
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2008 - 06:53pm PT
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Man!
I've heard some tough critics, but calling Coppola's work a documented atrocity is severe!
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taorock
Trad climber
Okanogan, WA
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Jun 28, 2008 - 07:06pm PT
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Stich,
I missed your post before I posted mine. That is such an accurate description of the will of the Viet Cong.
A long ago climbing partner M. Dudley was from Colorado Springs. I imagine that you may be the subject of a story he told me. He was at a party in the Springs (in an apartment building during the Vietnam era) that got busted by the cops. There was no way out. One person said "no problem" and just jumped out the 2nd or 3rd story window onto the ground and ran away. A Special Forces vet.
He said it was done with great aplomb!
edit: duh, I just realized that was a quote.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 28, 2008 - 07:49pm PT
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Yeah, you don't want to give anyone ideas about Doug and Sean's hammer arms...
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Ouch!
climber
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Jun 28, 2008 - 08:00pm PT
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David Halberstam had some revealing stuff about Vietnam in "The Best and Brightest".
Helps understand the difficulty in disengaging from Iraq as opposed to Vietnam. War of nationalism VS a blunder into an international jihad.
Dang! I meant to post this as LEB or DMT.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jun 29, 2008 - 12:33am PT
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i'll second the tip on dispatches. i first read it in '79, and have read it at least annually ever since then. it's a book you can go back to over and over and over. it's truly brilliant, and probably the best book ever written on 'nam. if you read the very visceral, sometimes stream-of-conscious, nightmare prose poetry of "dispatches", and then read the more sober, very literary, but still breathtaking "a bright shining lie", it'll rock you to your bones.
edit: wasn't herr involved in the screenplay for full metal jacket? i know he's in the credits...
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taorock
Trad climber
Okanogan, WA
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Jun 29, 2008 - 12:46am PT
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Bob,
I don't know why my link above screwed up but:
Herr also co-wrote the screenplay for Full Metal Jacket with his close friend and director Stanley Kubrick and author Gustav Hasford. The film was based on Hasford's novel The Short-Timers and the screenplay was nominated for an Academy award. He also wrote the narration for Francis Ford Coppola's Apocalypse Now
Brent
fixed link above
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2010 - 08:42pm PT
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Just picked up FMJ on Blu-ray. Astiounding clarity.
Eagerly waiting AN (lets see, first in the theater, then on VHS, then VHS Widescreen, then DVD, then Redux DVD. Sheesh! out hundred$!)
These two films, perhaps along with Paths Of Glory and Johnny Got His Gun, are the greatest anti-war films ever made.
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