Doggie tragedy in the Owen's River Gorge?

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donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 21, 2016 - 07:23am PT
Now everyone be sure to tell your doggies that climbing is an inherently dangerous activity.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 21, 2016 - 08:27am PT
I think they should pass a law requiring Ladwp to put up doggie guard rails like they made the petting zoo in Moorpark put up for the goats. Cuz they might fall and hurt themselves.

Good grief.
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Apr 21, 2016 - 09:21am PT
The endangered bighorn sheep are currently migrating through pine creek and birthing their lambs up there. The sheep are particularly wary of dogs and our local fish and wildlife crew is extremely concerned about the potential for negative interactions between the sheep and climbers. They are currently observing the climbing activity in the canyon to see what impact it may be having on the bighorns.

Please, if you're going to climb in pine creek, leave your dog at home.
Oops. Although this was last fall so the migrating thing may or may not have been going on then.
rwedgee

Ice climber
CA
Apr 21, 2016 - 10:54am PT
Hey say hey there say, I wrote a poem.

Doggy doggy I got you from the pound,
Doggy doggy I wish you didn't drown,
Doggy doogy your tail will never wag,
Doggy doggy I shouldn't have taken you to the crag.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Apr 21, 2016 - 11:19am PT
"Astro Dog," a great route in the Black Canyon was named by the first ascensionists who found a tourist's dog at the base....a nice 1,800 ft. ride.
The Black is a National Park and all dogs are supposed to be kept on leashes at all times. Just another instance of a dog owner flouting the rules and their doggie payed the ultimate penalty.
portent

Social climber
your mom's house
Apr 21, 2016 - 01:25pm PT
Dear Supertopo Cry Baby Club,
You anti-dog people should be looking at their owners. I bring my dog to the crag all the time and he is perfectly behaved. It's not the dog its the owner.
Kovar
overwatch

climber
Arizona
Apr 21, 2016 - 01:34pm PT
^^^^^^ that is Burchey gold right there, cracking me up
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 21, 2016 - 06:38pm PT
Dear Kovar Dog Owner,


Your dog sucks at the crag too.
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Apr 21, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
KOVAR KOVAR KOVAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111666
Mule Skinner

Social climber
Bishop
Apr 21, 2016 - 08:43pm PT
Scared dog can never swim.
zBrown

Ice climber
Apr 25, 2016 - 07:46pm PT
Well there's a dead 3-day old baby and a dog. I don't know where it fits, might as well put it here.


San Diego Couple Called 911 Twice After Dog Mauled 3-Day-Old Baby Before Going to Hospital

More to the picture than meets the eye, eh?



http://ktla.com/2016/04/25/san-diego-couple-called-911-twice-after-dog-mauled-3-day-old-baby-before-going-to-hospital/
anita514

Gym climber
Great White North
Apr 25, 2016 - 07:56pm PT
WTF are you even talking about?
okie

Trad climber
Apr 25, 2016 - 08:55pm PT
What Tami said. People have died trying to cross rivers because they thought being tied in would save them. Just the opposite.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 26, 2016 - 06:49am PT
WTF are you even talking about?

Took the words out of my keyboard...
i'm gumby dammit

Sport climber
da ow
Apr 26, 2016 - 10:17am PT
What do you care gym climber?
zBrown

Ice climber
Apr 26, 2016 - 11:02am PT
Harmonic disequilibrium in the Dog Zone is almost invariably introduced by human intervention.

Use of single-sample genetic methods to estimate effective population size has skyrocketed in recent years. Although the underlying models assume discrete generations, they are widely applied to age-structured species. We simulated genetic data for 21 iteroparous animal and plant species to evaluate two untested hypotheses regarding performance of the single-sample method based on linkage disequilibrium (LD): (1) estimates based on single-cohort samples reflect the effective number of breeders in one reproductive cycle (Nb), and (2) mixed-age samples reflect the effective size per generation (Ne). We calculated true Ne and Nb, using the model species' vital rates, and verified these with individual-based simulations. We show that single-cohort samples should be equally influenced by Nb and Ne and confirm this with simulated results: [Formula: see text] was a linear (r(2) = 0.98) function of the harmonic mean of Ne and Nb. We provide a quantitative bias correction for raw [Formula: see text] based on the ratio Nb/Ne, which can be estimated from two or three simple life history traits. Bias-adjusted estimates were within 5% of true Nb for all 21 study species and proved robust when challenged with new data. Mixed-age adult samples produced downwardly biased estimates in all species, which we attribute to a two-locus Wahlund effect (mixture LD) caused by combining parents from different cohorts in a single sample. Results from this study will facilitate interpretation of rapidly accumulating genetic estimates in terms of both Ne (which influences long-term evolutionary processes) and Nb (which is more important for understanding eco-evolutionary dynamics and mating systems).

More simply, humans should never place a dog in a place where it does not belong. Even 911 can't remove the sometimes disassterous effects of the disharmony.
spectreman

Trad climber
Apr 26, 2016 - 02:45pm PT
Camaron sholly
"Glad, one less stupid dog at the crags"



Really? That's what you would say to the people who just lost their dog?

Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Apr 26, 2016 - 02:54pm PT
Define "lost"
Capt.

climber
some eastside hovel
Apr 26, 2016 - 06:11pm PT
Camaron sholly is just full of quality posts. All full of positivity and practical input.
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Topic Author's Reply - Apr 26, 2016 - 06:31pm PT
I guess it's the anonymity, but there's something about the net that sure brings out the wonderful in people.

Anyway, back to the OP: Just be careful with the hounds crossing the OR.

That is all.

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