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SalNichols
Big Wall climber
Richmond, CA
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Mar 31, 2016 - 02:21pm PT
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A couple of years back, I developed, within a matter of hours, swelling in my scalp after getting a haircut. I walked into the ER at Alta Bates at 0200 and asked for a CBC. The MD asked, what do YOU think you have? Cellulitis was my response. He walked in with the test results 30 minutes later and said "good call Doc. You're at 12K". I had picked up a freaking staph infection at the barber shop.
Don't give an MD and excuse to slough you off. A simple and quick blood test will tell them nearly EVERYTHING they need to know. In particular, if you're running a high fever with your infection, don't screw around. You can go septic and dead in under 24 hours.
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phylp
Trad climber
Upland, CA
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Mar 31, 2016 - 05:15pm PT
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It only got worse and ended up at the ER. I was immediately put on some very powerful IV antibiotic. It helped some but by this point it had spread all the way around my body.
Karen, I had a similar experience, but at least with mine, the doc diagnosed it and gave me antibiotics. However by Sunday AM, the cellulitis was much worse and my face looked frightening. I went to the ER, and it was MRSA, so it had not responded to the AB I was initially prescribed.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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This story took place in a regular gym.
My friend was taking one of those "spinning classes" (no, not how to dance like Britney Spears, c. 1999) when her foot slipped off the bike pedal, and she scraped her shin on it. She wound up on IV antibiotics.
I now avoid public gyms and showers, if nothing else, to avoid the smell. Years ago, I got a free trial month to a gym, and went in there and used some of the fancy Nautilus weight machines. One of them involved doing the equivalent of dumbbell flies, but sitting up with your hands raised.
I wound up with a rather nasty athlete's foot type rash on my forearm. At first I thought it was poison oak. Getting rid of it required the most expensive tube of tinea pedis creme that I could find.
The infection didn't even require breaking or scratching the skin. The Nautilus machine had padded vinyl where my arms contacted the machine.
Later, I'd see these huge steroid addicts and think, "Those guys are the filthiest animals in the world. How do women put up with that?"
If I do use a public shower, I wear flip-flops and piss on the floor, as a community service to others.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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I want to move...
I had a good time but was ready for home after 10 days. it would have been better if I had more money and I spent a shitload don't let anyone tell you it's cheap
oh yeah and this thread ...people are fuggingross
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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I had been using this product for some time, apparently they were acquired by a larger concern who wanted the brand but changed the ingredients.
That is a typical MBA (morally bankrupt as#@&%e) move these days.
One company will buy another with a good reputation, trade on the goodwill built up by the quality of the product, and then change the formula to something cheaper.
They hope that nobody will notice, and that people will keep paying a high price for an inferior product. Fraudulently misleading consumers with a falsified list of ingredients is probably taught at MBA academies all over the nation, these days.
A few years ago, a manufacturer of canned tomatoes bragged to an associate that he could transform inferior tomatoes to Grade A tomatoes, using a label printer. He went to prison for his fraud, which is somewhat rare.
Closer to home, this occurred:
Black Diamond was bought by Warren Kanders, a rotund ex-manufacturer of military hardware who lives in New York City. He doesn't climb, nor can he, because of his obesity. The company had value to him because it trades on the significant goodwill built up over decades by the top-quality climbing gear made by Yvon Chouinard, Tom Frost, and their successors at Black Diamond.
The first thing Kanders did was shift manufacturing out of the United States, and over to China. The price of the gear stayed the same, but manufacturing costs went down. The difference is being used by Warren Kanders to finance his lavish and decadent lifestyle as a minor NYC hotshot.
Something as simple as a spray bottle with bleach water goes a long way toward keeping microbes at bay. The chlorine bleach evaporates, leaving little or no smell.
This should be a minimal maintenance protocol for climbing gyms, and gyms in general. Wiping your own sweat off the equipment with a towel is not enough, especially in this dawning age that is witnessing the ascendancy of a new dominant species here on earth: infectious superbugs.
As the petri dish fills to capacity, and the noose tightens, the conditions necessary for the reappearance of an antichrist become more and more saturated
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casconed
Boulder climber
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The no-shoes-in-the-bathroom thing makes me cringe. On the one hand - I get it. Bathrooms are dirty. But human skin is a festering, disgusting soup of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, fecal matter, and dirt, and to make a big deal out of the bathroom floor while ignoring the filth that gets rubbed all over the walls from people's disgusting, sweaty carcasas - well, just seems like they are focusing their energy in the wrong place.
Not to mention the grime that gets tracked in on people's street shoes...
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Are you sure about that one, you only get one first post?
Just kidding, people are gross!
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Karen
Trad climber
Prescott, AZ ~ God's country!!!!
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This is all so disgusting I never want to use any gym!!!!
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 6, 2016 - 09:31am PT
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Germs are coming for you, karen. Wash your hands, over and over and over. Never stop washing, never stop or your babies will die.
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casconed
Boulder climber
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Are you sure about that one, you only get one first post?
Whoa! I didn't realize! I'm totally into it though!
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Most definetly a First World problem.
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rgold
Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
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I like to use liquid chalk in the gym, partially because I'm disinfecting my hands with alcohol each time I do a route.
One of my gyms has a sign asking climbers not to wear their climbing shoes into the bathrooms.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Yep, clip your shower shoes to the back of the harness, whats the big deal? Oh yeah, I forgot, light and fast. Go before you leave the house?
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jeff constine
Trad climber
Ao Namao
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Booger Picking Kids, poop on their hands, sick kids and adults, Bathroom to the Plastic, crappy ventilation, oh and that carpet foam flooring that holds it all forever stinking up the place. YUR GONNA DIE.
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doug redosh
Trad climber
golden, CO
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They found "traces" of bacteria. One probably has a lot more on one's skin at any one time. Seems low risk to me. Just wash your hands after climbing (one needs to get the chalk off anyway).
Doug Redosh MD
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Thanks Dr. Older gym climbers may need to Redoosh their hands several times during a climbing session
And I would quit climbing Jim immediately or use more pro
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TC61
Social climber
Los Angeles
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Got one on my knee from bumping a hold, now I immediately go and wash any abrasions.
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hellroaring
Trad climber
San Francisco
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My old girlfriend swore to me on her mother's grave that she got the clap from climbing at the gym...
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