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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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A point of clarity.
Yes, I've had to get rough with people in my old line of work. When you work in biker bars, bowling alleys, and an Alaskan roadhouse, it goes with the territory. 200 customers a night, for 18 years adds up to a whole boat-load of drunks. not everyone, believe it or not, is a happy drunk.
I've been lucky with my life. I made good decisions and was able to retire before I turned 40. Now I rent houses for a living. My first house just appraised for $400,000 more than I paid for it in '86. My last house appreciated 38% in '05. Not too shabby for the "stupidest person on the forum" or a "high school drop-out". Truth is I didn't drop out of high school, I got kicked out. I'm too stubborn to quit.
So yes, I will be enjoying my "pocket change".
And no, I won't be having any drinks. I quit.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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Yes, Lois.
The dogs love avocados. California dogs know how to eat them, too. They bite off the end, squeeze out the pit, and swallow the rest of it whole in one gulp.
The only way I'll eat an avocado is to make it guacamole.
I'm excited as hell, I found a place in Oceanside that sells avocado trees for $13 each. That's like giving them away, and well worth the drive.
The donkey can't have the avocados, I've been told their poisonous to donkeys.
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Ouch!
climber
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Speaking of high school, when I started playing football, there was no age limit. I played off and on for 6 years. I think some guys played 8 or 10. When they put the 20 year old rule in, we lost half the team.
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Chaz
Trad climber
So. Cal.
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This whole thread is about hi-jacking, Lois.
September 11th, remember.
Ouch!,
Some of the dads I know are holding their sons back a grade in elementary school so when they start playing sports in high school they're a year up on everyone else.
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Chaz, that seems like a bad thing to do for that reason but I think most boys would be better off starting school a year later. It always looked to me like girls were more ready for school a year sooner than knotheaded boys.
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Freshman and Senior high school pictures
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Ouch!
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This thread was out of focus from the outset.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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You'd be better off rehashing the Warren Report - more meat.
Every aspect of the events associated with all three flights prior, during, and after the attacks are entirely consistent with the physical evidence on the ground including all buildings. While there are many surprising, unexpected, counterintuitive, and difficult to model phenomena among that body of evidence, they are nevertheless, entirely consistent with the attacks that were witnessed and verified.
The only "conspiracy" you could come up with would be around someone aiding and abetting these terrorists. But even such a passive role would represent an incredible and unprecedented stretch in the covert capabilities of any single part of our government let alone the level of coordination and cooperation necessary to take even an assisting role in these attacks. Particularly within the Executive and Military branches of government such an operation would be very difficult if not impossible to conceal.
This administration proposes delusional fantasies and is incapable of executing competently in the real world - you folks give them way, way too much credit.
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WBraun
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Rokjox
Not me man, I'm going to keep watching this investigation by the third parties and my gut feeling is there's a stinking rat in the woodpile ...can you smell it too?
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J. Werlin
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Cedaredge
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Mar 25, 2007 - 03:41pm PT
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Chaz states: "Their whole reason for putting forward their asinine questions is to sow chaos and confusion, like a troll of sorts."
Iraq compared to the USA before sanctions and our invasion:
-a higher literacy rate and much better access to higher education
-a lower infant mortality rate than our own
Now:
-75% unemployement
-Estimates of as many as 600,000 Iraqi dead
Who is sowing chaos and confusion? It's no fun to admit that our government is the bad guy--or one of them anyway.
Ask yourself this: what is the motivation for our government to be giving us this particular information set regarding 9-11? I see the invasion of two country's and the subsequent big dollar contracts to Haliburton, Becthel and other contractors closely linked to this administration.
What is the motivation of these other small-time players in questioning the party line? I'd say trying to get at the truth.
If asking questions is so frightening to this administration that their non-answers come out as weak propaganda statements like "that's unpatriotic" or "that's all in the past. We need to move on. . ." I'll take that as a sign there is something they are hiding.
Or what about idiots like Bill Riley on Fox that, if they don't like what a guest is saying, don't have answers to the questions, simply start screaming shut up! or cut the guests mic? This is the same level of intelligence our government is using with us.
Cheers to those brave enough to question and think critically.
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Raydog
Trad climber
Boulder
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Mar 25, 2007 - 04:01pm PT
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"BYU Professor Steven E. Jones"
I agree w/ Klimmer.
This is about as credible as it gets.
If you look (not on TV) the international intelligence community is saying "hey, why did they dispose of the evidence after the collapse, that violates procedure".
Do not forget the origins or the foundations of this country and try to not live in a TV tranquilized dream world.
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