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WBraun
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Jul 23, 2010 - 07:46pm PT
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Yeah ....
Just look at today's "thinkers".
Sample some of the threads and responses on this forum.
Like for instance: "Why are those SuperTopo-ians so wrong on everything? (OT)"
No wonder these people can't solve any problems.
Yowzzz!!!! duck and cover
:-)
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jbaker
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Redwood City, CA
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Jul 23, 2010 - 11:27pm PT
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Re: NASA. Trying to justify a program by its spinoffs means that the basic purpose of the program can't be fully justified. Proponents of NASA and military spending have used the spinoff argument for a long time, never convincingly. Solar energy research has benefited a lot more from direct investment through DOE and through solar investment tax credits.
Re: population increases. Investments in the education of girls have had the biggest effect on reducing population growth. Population is going to peak in the next 40 years. The question is where: 8 billion or 12 billion?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
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Jul 24, 2010 - 12:39am PT
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Jul 24, 2010 - 12:43am PT
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Beyond Cairn?
Hmmm.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 24, 2010 - 12:51am PT
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland
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Jul 24, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Bail, Bail, Bail!
oogle photos
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photonez
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Jul 26, 2010 - 07:11pm PT
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I listened to more of this last night also. Definitely brings to mind many Sci-fi books and movies. Brave New World, Altered Carbon, The Matrix...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 26, 2010 - 08:19pm PT
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Re: NASA. Trying to justify a program by its spinoffs means that the basic purpose of the program can't be fully justified. Proponents of NASA and military spending have used the spinoff argument for a long time, never convincingly. Solar energy research has benefited a lot more from direct investment through DOE and through solar investment tax credits.
Not really. It's just that the return on investment (ROI) goes beyond exploration. There IS a very consumer-based ROI that has benefited everybody - beyond the general advances in space exploration and knowledge of the universe.
You gotta have vision, man.....
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway
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Jul 27, 2010 - 12:30am PT
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Leaders have agendas...so do schemers, proselytes, stamp collectors and serial killers
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gonamok
Trad climber
poway
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Jul 27, 2010 - 12:48am PT
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The space program produced hundreds of products, devices & materials that benefitted the average american. It expanded every scientific discipline and created many new ones. There is a strong argument that it was money very well spent.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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Jul 27, 2010 - 12:49am PT
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Hopefully, it will continue.....or(gasp) Expand.
We Need our frontiers, y'know.
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2010 - 01:51am PT
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The disappearing door thing is pretty cool. Imagine that car with burners or anti-gravity boosters and you have the Jetsons.
I think that link to NPR is of an older story because Singularity: Is it near is now a movie.
Why would anyone want to live forever?
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 27, 2010 - 01:58am PT
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"Why would anyone want to live forever?"
You rascal.
You think you can just die and then it's forever over?
You rascal you don't have that kind of power.
You're just a rascal .....
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2010 - 02:11am PT
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Main Entry: ras·cal
Pronunciation: \ˈras-kəl\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English rascaile foot soldiers, commoners, worthless person, from Anglo-French rascaille, from Old French dial. (Norman & Picard) *rasquer to scrape, clean off, from Vulgar Latin *rasicare
Date: 15th century
1 : a mean, unprincipled, or dishonest person
2 : a mischievous person or animal
— rascal adjective
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I'm so not a rascal.
And I don't want to live forever in this life, yea. If there's an after life, hopefully it's more enlightened and less materialistic and filled with greed and suffering. You gotta die eventually, and you don't get to take your rack to the grave...
I hope there are 72 virgins. Who WOULDN'T want 72 virgins?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Jul 27, 2010 - 11:42am PT
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I hope there are 72 virgins. Who WOULDN'T want 72 virgins?
Probably the 72 virgins...
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 27, 2010 - 12:41pm PT
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Blue,
You must not like virgins.
How many ladies here would love to have 72 male virgin chippendale dancers
[INSERT LOCKER PHOTO HERE]
when they get to the promised land??
(I'm just trying to lighten the mood today as it's a bit overcast. I will delete these comments if they are found to be offensive)
E
So, the below post means that either Jesus was much older or dinosaurs were much younger.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
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Jul 27, 2010 - 12:45pm PT
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AstroArlo
Trad climber
Jackson, WY
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Jul 27, 2010 - 11:20pm PT
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Here's a few ideas:
1. Term limits for EVERY political office. Many voters were happy that Bush could only serve eight years, many voters are happy that Obama will only get 4 or 8 years. Many wish that Pelosi and Reid would go away. Same on the Repub side. A great way to at least give new ideas a chance.
2. Judge people by their ideas and actions, not by whether they are "red" or "Blue." Listen first, judge later. Listen to the people you can hardly stand listening to...like Glenn Beck, Hannity, Keith Obermann, and Rachel Maddow. Try to understand the opposite point of view - it doesn't mean you agree with it, but if you don't understand it, how can you honestly say it's "bad" and you oppose it?
3. Happiegirl has it exactly right. Change the things you can change - like the way you live your life, consume, and interact with others. No new technology or new laws required here, just an open mind and a willingness to change.
I disagree that everyone should learn about "peak oil." Everyone should be required to take:
1. Personal finance and money management.
2. Economics.
If people understood personal finance, there would be no economic meltdown, foreclosures, etc.
If people understood economics, they'd understand big oil, why "renewable" energy isn't more prolific (economics, not "big oil" conspiracy), and why things happen or don't happen in the world.
P.S. - While we are being selfish by climbing instead of contributing to society, there are intelligent, hard working people trying to solve the problems of the world!
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