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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Apr 13, 2013 - 09:07pm PT
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But, trads like it rough!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2013 - 09:12pm PT
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Some of us were guessing Mark Powell to be the proto-Stonemaster, due to his free climbing focus.
That would make him TRAD.
photos stolen from: Guido?
I love that middle shot a whole super bunch.
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tradmanclimbs
Ice climber
Pomfert VT
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Apr 13, 2013 - 10:24pm PT
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Sticky spannish rubber. The first we saw of it in the north east. Calmas imported by Climb High
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Apr 13, 2013 - 10:55pm PT
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Mark Powell, climbing hard and tied straight into goldline is supertrad! Ed H needs to post all the routes Mark Powell put up now.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 13, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
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Hey that's a great idea!
Paging Ed Hartouni … Ed Hartouni to the white courtesy telephone please!
Everybody knows about Royal, Sacherer, Bridwell, Higgins, Ament , Bob Kamps.
Powell not so much, especially those from later generations perhaps because his run was a little bit short due to the ankle injury.
There's a couple of things that make him a Proto-Stonemaster to my mind and that's his Southern California connection and his free climbing focus, like Kamps. I asked Bonnie Kamps and she said they were close friends, climbed together quite a bit and so forth but I don't remember any other details.
And I do equate Stonemasters with trad quite a lot, because they maintained a tight focus on free climbing and they established a lot of bolted first ascents from the ground up.
Grossman has done an oral history with Powell and says he is absolutely sharp as a tack and has a memory like a steel trap.
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Mark Force
Trad climber
Cave Creek, AZ
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Apr 13, 2013 - 11:54pm PT
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Rrider, Nice one!!
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 12:17am PT
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RRider!
Sah-weet ... You are so in the groove baby!
This thread may have legs yet ...
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 12:19am PT
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What Was Trad?
Climb of the Century, Joshua Tree, 1981
photo of the cowboy without his hat by Russ "the butthead" Walling
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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Apr 14, 2013 - 12:20am PT
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This could be trad considering it's never been climbed...and I sure don't feel like drillin.
Tuesday's projects.
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 12:23am PT
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Go get it Tiger!
Please document, return triumphant ... and show us: What Is Trad !
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Apr 14, 2013 - 01:25am PT
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Apr 14, 2013 - 01:29am PT
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Maybe "Trad" is a myth....
Just pondering here. A grand Ethos to aspire to, not attainable by mere Mortal Man.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Apr 14, 2013 - 06:56am PT
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Is this guy trad?
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MisterE
Social climber
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Apr 14, 2013 - 08:17am PT
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 08:30am PT
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Maybe "Trad" is a myth....
Just pondering here. A grand Ethos to aspire to, not attainable by mere Mortal Man.
Oh Skully, it is no MYTH, although there is much associated mythology.
And you just had to bring that up didn't yah ... Trubblemaker.
No matter: I was going to get around to this factor.
Dig, and aspiring TradPunks & Tradettes please pay attention here: nobody said this would be easy or even straightforward to pin down the reality of trad, to wit ... we are now at 600 posts in service of this question. Although, admittedly if people would just read assiduously they would see we have already nailed it down and quite thoroughly I might add. For that FACT we have WARBLER to thank.
Here's part of what it is to be trad, especially NOW, but it has ever been this way. SIMPLE. If you don't know what it is and you want to BE trad you just make it the fucc up!
... And if you meet resistance from someone for your interpretation and subsequent practices you just punch them the fucc out! For examples of the latter, see: BoltWars*.
*Not a sequel to Star Wars, yet arguably, equally as entertaining. But you knew that?
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Tarbuster
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Topic Author's Reply - Apr 14, 2013 - 08:36am PT
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Thank you for that Mr. E.
That is the correct answer!
Well done!
BTW. This is not a multiple-choice test kids.
All questions will be answered either via longform essay, or with distinguishing photographs.
Thank you for playing!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Apr 14, 2013 - 09:51am PT
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I can dig it, Tar....I was just doing my Donini impression, stirring the pot, as it were.
edit: If one doesn't stir, it'll stick! Cheers.
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SuperTopo on the Web
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Somebody puts forth on Mark Powell as a free climbing wizard
Let us know!