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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 26, 2016 - 08:14pm PT
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So science has determined you to be an automation, without choice or free will.
I guess it's easy to get through a day being an automation.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 26, 2016 - 08:16pm PT
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So science has determined you to be an automation, without choice or free will.
No, science has demonstrated that you are an automaton with only the illusion (delusion) of free will.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 26, 2016 - 08:18pm PT
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So you are the only one that has free will
and you say I don't, that I am an automation.
what is your proof that confirms this statement?
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thebravecowboy
climber
The Good Places
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Aug 26, 2016 - 08:19pm PT
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That's Sci_nce to you, good sirs.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 26, 2016 - 09:07pm PT
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what is your proof that confirms this statement?
That's a malformed question.
Science can neither prove nor confirm anything.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 26, 2016 - 09:08pm PT
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That's Sci_nce to you, good sirs.
I might be incorrect, but I think you meant "Sci-nce." LOL
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 27, 2016 - 07:41am PT
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Blush, blush, thou lump of foul malformity [sick]
-WS
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 27, 2016 - 08:16am PT
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Personally, I choose not be an atheist and accept no(naught) for an answer.
The majority of my acquaintances consider themselves agnostics. Among a few of them "science" is being used as a final stop for continued philosophical query.
Has science(at it's current fetal stage), already eliminated the question of the existence of God? Through science we inquire and explore our bodies, minds, the elements, this planet and the universe. We find healing of disease and sustenance, possibly habitable worlds, ways to catalog vast amounts of information in increasingly smaller spaces. We collectively can be so smart.
We may yet discover God. A few millennia, give or take after the discovery of a workable warp drive.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Aug 27, 2016 - 09:05am PT
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Has science(at it's current fetal stage), already eliminated the question of the existence of God?
all scientific enquiry into the existence of a God has proved that God can not be found or communicated with
nor has God done anything on earth that can determined to be the product of God's direct or indirect action.
I looked for him as well
By proxy, science has determined that it's more highly probable that God does not exist than the possibility of the existence of a God.
If God can't be found, and has not done anything that can be scientifically investigated, you can assume that God is all in the mind of the believers.
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Aug 27, 2016 - 09:23am PT
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Everyone needs a hobby
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Aug 27, 2016 - 09:42am PT
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Why do so many people believe in God?
Because he's the truth, and the 'light'. And he guides us through the darkness. He is love.
http://www.beliefnet.com/faiths/catholic/interview-with-an-exorcist.aspx?
Father Gary Thomas discusses why demons attack us, why they are envious of God's love of us, and how we can defend against them. And he's the first to caution you that while most cases of demonic possession are not that, "If people saw what I saw, they’d be at church every single week." Fr. Gary Thomas.
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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Aug 27, 2016 - 12:01pm PT
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Two sentences by the same person.
Who is pointing out the absurdity of what empiricists believe.
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Aug 27, 2016 - 12:44pm PT
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Devolvement by threa...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 27, 2016 - 02:37pm PT
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people want to be right, their ego would not like it if it found out that all their life they had been wrong,
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Flip Flop
climber
Earth Planet, Universe
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Aug 27, 2016 - 09:19pm PT
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If your God shows up please tell him that his idea of "Hide and Seek" is dumb.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 28, 2016 - 01:27am PT
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that sounds like contempt prior to investigation,
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Aug 28, 2016 - 06:53am PT
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If your God shows up please tell him that his idea of "Hide and Seek" is dumb.
Lose, lose. Show up and it's Micro-manager. Macro-micro-manager?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Aug 29, 2016 - 11:55am PT
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"physicists at the time didn’t understand"
what about the stuff we thought we understood but is now wrong?
like the electron being the smallest particle,
they keep splitting atoms and they keep finding new particles, when do you think that is going to end?
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Aug 29, 2016 - 04:49pm PT
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We believe in God because we believe stuff. True stuff, false stuff, stuff we used to believe was true but now believe is false, stuff we used to believe was false and now believe is true. Whatever stuff. It's how we work.
I try to flap my wings and fly but I just can't do it. But when I try to convince myself that what I believe is true, however near or far fetched it is, whatever it is, it's like I'm a fish in water.
59% of likely voters believe that the way Trump talks appeals to bigotry. A majority or plurality of every demographic measured (other than republicans) agree that the way Trump talks appeals to bigotry - democrats, independents, men, women, white people with and without college degrees, every age group, whites and nonwhites alike - agreed that Trumps words appeal to bigotry. But only 29% of Republicans believe it, because now he's their God.
I prayed to Jesus and then he filled my gas tank. Climate change is a liberal hoax.
Ok, sure, yea I do that too, in my own way ... Yea, it's kind of embarrassing, but what's a human to do?
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