El Cap, free, one fall

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deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
May 22, 2009 - 08:30am PT
Reilly, that pic is mindblowing. Baaaaaad Assssss!
deuce4

climber
Hobart, Australia
May 22, 2009 - 04:36pm PT
What's pretty clear is that Ueli Steck just made history, and sets the bar for the future flash ascents.

Coz-mamma, if there was ever a "Free-Climbing Council of Elders" you'd be my choice for a board member. BTW, how's that writing coming along?
drljefe

climber
Old Pueblo, AZ
May 22, 2009 - 04:57pm PT
Big respect.

Even though he blew the onsight, his new wife was probably happy that HE had to deal with the 'wet spot' for once!
James

climber
My twin brother's laundry room
May 22, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
The reason onsights are so coveted is because you can slip on one "easy" wet section and it no longer counts. Someone will onsight El Cap and they'll be pysched when they do.

Hats off to Ueli for an impressive send.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 22, 2009 - 08:10pm PT
Something unclear; One fall? or Free? only one applies.
GDavis

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - May 22, 2009 - 08:15pm PT
He took a fall on a pitch then re-climbed it clean. A carabiner is an aluminum snap-link that the rope is clipped through as protection. A seat harness is a protective diaper made out of nylon webbing designed to protect the wearer in the event of a fall. A stopper is an aluminum wedge designed to fit itself into constrictions of a crack in solid rock.


ANY MORE QUESTIONS SISSY BOY!!!!!?!?!?!??!!?!/1/1/1/1/1/one/1/1/11//1111slash
scuffy b

climber
Sinatra to Singapore
May 22, 2009 - 08:20pm PT
I'm tired of having to place stoppers.
I want the ones designed to fit themselves into constrictions.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
May 22, 2009 - 10:57pm PT
More points if he pooped his harness and still redpointed. don't know if that's kosher 'free' , but prolly more Badass!
FBOMB

climber
May 23, 2009 - 07:54am PT
All you nig-nogs are missing the frickin' POINT.

Yuji, TC, Alex Honnold -- all those boys spend MONTHS in the valley every year, specifically training for hard granite free climbing, and on-sighting El Cap in particular. It's their home turf.

Uli strolls into the valley and cranks out Golden Gate... when was the last time he was in the valley? '01? and back then he did just did a "normal" ascent of the nose? This send is in a whole different league, the only other "newbie" free ascent of el cap that comes to mind is Leo and Patch on El Nino.


bob

climber
May 23, 2009 - 10:20am PT
Didn't some Australian guys do an early ascent of El Nino? THey said the climbing wasn't the hard part, but the hauling was. Am I off on this one? Clint?
Bob J.
coward

Trad climber
Boulder, Wyoming
May 25, 2009 - 09:57am PT
Yuji did a ledge-to-ledge, no falls, free ascent of the Salathe in 13 hours a while back (after his onsight attempt, obviously).
Captain...or Skully

Social climber
North of the Owyhees
May 25, 2009 - 10:11am PT
Bad ass is badass.....Walk up or rehearse.
More than I can muster.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
May 25, 2009 - 11:19am PT
It was 30 years ago this month that Max and I went up to free climb the Salathe.

and as far as the "should we just give it to him" comment. Well, did he do a "perfect" ascent? No he did not, he made one small mistake. If we give this to him, what do we say to the guy who in fact does the first "perfect" ascent?

I can't imagine that Uli wants it "given" to him.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
May 25, 2009 - 12:28pm PT
Is there a consensus now that true free ascents use stances rather than sling belays?

Saw Deuce and others mention it. It wasn't that long ago that many objected to the exclusion.



So much the better.
A noteworthy ascent. I'm sure he'd be happy not to be "given" anything.
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
May 25, 2009 - 12:45pm PT
HIs ascent is amazingly impressive but:

Did he fall or did he not fall?
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
May 25, 2009 - 01:16pm PT
Well, we can say that Golden Gate has been onsighted, which is pretty bad ass, cause it's a notch above Freerider for sure.

Problem is, Golden Gate isn't a complete El Cap route, so somebody could add "luck" to their rad skills and get another 'higher' feather in their cap (for what that's worth)

The Man got his experience and knows what it meant to him and we all know it was rad and how the details figure into the big picture. Nit picking "who was first" is for egos.

"Who was first" is significant for new trends, quantum leaps, new visions, new gear, and jumps in standards, not for slips, near misses, and lucky/unlucky breaks.

Peace

Karl
Mark Hudon

Trad climber
Hood River, OR
May 25, 2009 - 01:25pm PT
It's the most badass ascent of an El Cap free route to date. Unfortunately, it wasn't a perfect ascent. If we start modifying perfect, where do we stop.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
May 25, 2009 - 02:13pm PT
Definitions are for competitive minds. Where do you draw the line of 'perfect"

Free solo, no falls, onsight is perfect right?

Everything lower than that is playing games with the game. Ledges or sling belays? Touching the chipped holds or pin scars? Preplaced water or bivy gear? It goes on and on.

Would it have been a more perfect ascent if he hadn't slipped on the easy 11 but had gear and water stashed so he didn't have to haul? (by a friend to save the onsight?)

Peace

Karl
JakeW

Big Wall climber
CA
May 25, 2009 - 02:18pm PT
Nice job, sounds rewarding and fun! He must have felt healthy! Isn't that pitch .10a...oh no, does that change his experience! Probably not.

WOW, nitpicking the semantic details of the relative radness of what someone did on their bourgeois vacation??? I wonder how long Ueli thought about this stuff. The experience really only happened to him, and had only to do with he, his wife, the rock, and...oh yeah...all the other people that inspired him with their ascents and attempts and helped elevate his level of belief in himself and helped change his perceptions of the possible...and oh yeah, all the people that grew his food, made his gear, and flew his airplane. Why do so many people want to assign recognition to individuals for funny little activities that are only made possible by large industrial societies and thousands of years of slavery. Hopefully Ueli experienced an extremely high relative level of FUN! Until someone does an onsight nude free-solo, or, even harder, makes all their own gear and food, and all their own tools to make their own gear and food, and all the tools to make those tools, its all kind of a bunch of aiding, requiring a large group effort, like most of life for most of us whether we're aware of it or not. Most of the work behind all of our ascents was done by people trying to survive in the strange societies of an overpopulated world, who didn't have much opportunity for recreation. Thanks and empathy for them(that includes you too most likely, although probably not as much as others)!

Isn't climbing about the feeling and fun during the activity? When you're struggling to ascend, are you thinking about a list of climbers with your name on it somewhere, or about falling and cracking your skull, or about nothing...and you realize you don't have many memories of it later and just want to be doing it again.
bob

climber
May 25, 2009 - 02:31pm PT
Jake, sounds like you've been to the Ridge. I do feel that we all help each other in so many ways and that we don't even know it at times. The breakdown to the last cell. I'll see you tomarrow, and I'm sure we'll make a "perfect" ascent of something, eh?


Jensen
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