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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Aug 28, 2018 - 02:47pm PT
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Niiiiiiiiice Mooch!!
My brother-in-law, Gunnery Sergeant Cuppernell USMC came up 27 minutes short last year. The fittest dude I know. That's just gotta' be savage as all hell.
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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Aug 28, 2018 - 03:18pm PT
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this walmsley clip ain't bad either.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
the affinity for fully immersive states is fertile ground
for any kind of analysis of the human condition.
that it can be healing and provide solace,
well ... doesn't fail the pertinancy test
watch it. it's the best video narrative has to offer
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snakefoot
climber
Nor Cal
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Aug 28, 2018 - 03:22pm PT
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honcho,
whats the deal with DNF for your races. did your burro get mad?
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Clint Cummins
Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
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Aug 31, 2018 - 02:41pm PT
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https://utmbmontblanc.com/en/live/utmb
Marshall,
I was rooting for Walmsley, but not betting on anyone in particular.
It was such a brutal race, with several people leading and then later dropping out....
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Marshall
climber
bay area
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Aug 31, 2018 - 05:07pm PT
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who you betting on, clint? (hard to bet against killian but walmsley has had an amazing summer...)
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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Aug 31, 2018 - 09:05pm PT
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whats the deal with DNF for your races. did your burro get mad?
Well yeah. We adopted them less than 6 months ago. They were part of a herd of BLM rescues of about 20 burros and mustangs. We got those two pulled out of the gang and all the others were at a rendering plant in Mexico that night. We were told that they wouldn't be ready to race until next Summer but we tried like hell to get them through as many races as we could this season.
They've never seen snow before, they've never loaded into a trailer before, they've never crossed a Colorado stream before, never crossed a bridge before, never seen the white lines in the middle of a street before, never seen the yellow lines in the middle of a street before, never had a carrot or an apple before, never been told they're a good baby before, never been brushed before, never had a saddle put on them before, never seen potholes/storm drains/ sidewalks/screaming kids and crowds with cameras before, never seen 70-80 other dressed out racing donkeys before, race announcers with bullhorns and starting guns scare most donkeys, even the veterans........
Yes, training wild donkeys to trust you and run long training distances and then actual race conditions is all a massive shock to them. They were emotional in so many ways. They're 4 and 5 years old and live to be 35-50 years old. I believe we've got plenty of time to get them all trusting and badass. They're very popular at races, just new, young and skittery as hell. It's just not a gimme' sport. There's no 5.10 donkey races, they're all brutal.
Oh yeah, we had them gelded the 3rd day we got them. You don't want an intact male donkey at all. Been kicked and bitten so hard so many times now.
edit ~Jackie just said, "it's not like skydiving with wind tunnels, flocking camps and coaching with green fluffy grass everywhere" ;-)
they're killers I tell ya'!
Hankster
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hooblie
climber
from out where the anecdotes roam
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a whole lot has to go right to finish an ultra.
strong and tough, fast and up to the task isn't enough.
finishers know that and don't disparage
edit: not that anyone was
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Bale
Mountain climber
UT
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Frenchman Xavier Thevenard won the UTMB. Walmsley dropped and Killian got stung by a bee!
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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So, Mr Honcho, are you seeing any enthusiasm in yer kids for their new ‘sport’?
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john hansen
climber
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I knew Gordy Ainsliegh , the first human to run the Western States Endurance run in 74 or so after the horse he was going to race in the Tevis cup came up lame a few weeks before the race. He was in a Dojo with a climbing friend of mine. I meet him a few times at parties and such and even went climbing with him once or twice .
I was driving my pick up from Auburn up to Lovers Leap. My friend was up front and Gordy rode in the back. I remember on the way over he had this huge bowl with some kind of cereal with sprouts and who knows what else, all covered with goats milk.
He ate about half and left the rest, uncovered , in the back of my open truck bed. After we had been climbing for 3 or 4 hours in the 90 degree heat and got back to the truck, he picked up the bowl and finished it off..
He had an amazing stride when he ran. He would cover ten feet or more and it seemed his feet were never more than an inch or two off the ground.
He just glided along seeming to float an extra few feet in mid stride.
From Wiki:
Ainsleigh had finished the Western States Trail Ride (Tevis Cup) in 1971 and 1972 on horseback, but in 1973 his new horse was pulled with lameness at the 29-mile checkpoint. In 1974, with the inspiration and encouragement of Drucilla Barner, first woman to win the Tevis Cup and Secretary of the Western States Trail Foundation, Gordy joined the horses of the Western States Trail Ride to see if he could complete the course on foot in under twenty-four hours. Twenty-three hours and forty-two minutes later Gordy arrived in Auburn, proving that a runner could, indeed, travel the 100 miles in one day.
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Mike Honcho
Trad climber
Glenwood Springs, CO
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So, Mr Honcho, are you seeing any enthusiasm in yer kids for their new ‘sport’?
Oh yeah! They love to see all the other donkeys and they get all the attention as well. Right now, the actual hardest part is that they're waaaay faster than we can keep up with. That's an ideal problem most racers would love to have.
Pack Burro Racing is a team sport, and the donkey is the leader. Gotta' live that philosophy to be successful. This season we found out exactly what we really need to work on for next season. I have them broken of most truly bad habits (Eli still will totally bite the sh#t out of you and Dolomite has back left leg kick that will nearly kill you), but they're just getting better and better.
Most other racers have 3-5yrs and even up to 10-15yrs racing experience. Our boys have less than 6 months, so lots of room to improve, and lots of time to be patient and get there as well. Rescue donkeys trained to race do not come with a handbook. I'm just doing a lot of what my Grandparents showed me with horses along with a lot of just what I think seems right. Once they aren't terrified of something, they get over it pretty quickly. They're such good babies and they're going to eventually be stellar racers.
Those donkeys were going to be killed, skinned and then sold for their prized hides in some Korean/Japanese market by the end of the day when we had them pulled from the killpens. Everything is a massive improvement for them and I think they sort of get that. Anyways, thanks for the interest, this an awesome thread, I'm really inspired by everyone here regardless of what their angle is on endurance sports.
HANKSTER!
CAYLOR!
vvvvvvv edit!!! ~Reilly!!! vvvvvv
Thanks dude, like I said though. We were just trying to find an activity that would cause us to not BASE jump so much, we were going to get Mtn. Bikes but thought we might just buy them and forget about them in our gear room. So we thought of something that would require a more firm commitment from us.. so we adopted a couple donkeys, pretty feckin' weird, but we dig on suffering and really weird sh#t. So a good compromise was made we think!
vvvvvvv edit!!! ~Reilly!!! vvvvvvv
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Well, good sir, bless you for yer compassion. May it be rewarded with fewer kicks and bites! 😊
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EdBannister
Mountain climber
13,000 feet
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i just walk.. Rae Lakes to Road's End, Kings Canyon by 2 pm a long time ago, or 27 in a day with no pack last week. i think Gary Valle is amazing...
people that cover more than 30 miles in a day amaze me.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Then there's local hero Dave Goggins
That's when he discovered the Badwater Ultramarathon—the legendary 135-mile race from the floor of Death Valley to Whitney Portal. He called race director Chris Kostman to see if he could get in. Kostman asked Goggins how many 100-milers he'd run. None. How many marathons? None. Kostman told him to get some ultramarathoning experience if he wanted to run Badwater.
Days later, he entered a 24-hour race in San Diego. The ordeal left him with broken metatarsals in both feet and a case of kidney failure, but he did crank out 100 miles in less than 19 hours. Ten days later, he ran the Las Vegas Marathon in 3:08. And for ample measure, he entered the H.U.R.T. 100-Mile Endurance Run, one of the hardest ultras in the world. Goggins finished ninth. All this was in the span of two months.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Goggins is a good man. Haven't seen him in a while. Not sure if he's still in town.
I first encountered him at the 24 hour run out at Mission Beach.
I thought, what is this huge man doing in a place like this?
A special form of ultra marathon is a 24-hour run. Here, the participants have to run as far as possible within 24 hours. The male world record is 303.506 km and was set by Yiannis Kouros and Mami Kudo holds the female record of 252.205
24 Hour run appears to be a case where size matters, eh?
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