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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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What's "Age of Discovery" a book? movie? TV series?
It's the name historians use to describe the primary era of European exploration (something like the "Rennasiance" or "Enlightenment")--I happened to remember the term from college history classes and just reading about various old-school explorers.
I don't want to overstate my credentials--the above is about it!
Maybe others who like to post here have recommended books or other sources of info--one book I really enjoyed was about Magellan's circumnavigation of the globe (actually his crew's -- he didn't make it past the Phillipines due to some poor people skills).
http://www.amazon.com/Over-Edge-World-Laurence-Bergreen-ebook/dp/B0018ND8B6/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1412730173&sr=1-1&keywords=magellan
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Wow. Conservative men really really like this holiday.
We can keep it, I don't give a sh#t. Who cares? Let's have a Mao and a Bush day, a Michael Jackson day and a f*#king Mike Tyson day.
It's a day. On the calender.
zzzz.
Wanna talk real sh#t? Let's get rid of the GOD DAMNED standard system and go to metric - like every other developed nation in the world. I can forget who the hell this Columbus guy did or didn't do but thinking that my great grandkids are going to have to memorize liters/pints/feet/yards gives me a headache that I would cure with a bowl and a quick cuddle with my husband but y'all don't want us to have those either.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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F*#k that. Inches and feet are way cooler.
The metric system is all anal and sh#t.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Wanna talk real sh#t? Let's get rid of the GOD DAMNED standard system and go to metric - like every other developed nation in the world. I can forget who the hell this Columbus guy did or didn't do but thinking that my great grandkids are going to have to memorize liters/pints/feet/yards gives me a headache that I would cure with a bowl and a quick cuddle with my husband but y'all don't want us to have those either.
Wondered that myself, but I don't give a f*#k one way or the other, I can roll both ways. The 1/16's and 1/64's get a bit tiring though...
Greg, what you just did is technically called, "going Metric". Kinda like going postal....
Also, the same people who have the bleeding hearts for "indigenous" people and hate for my man Chris Columbus, are ironically the same one who always preach about the benefits of "diversity" and "melding of cultures".
Meh! Go live with the indigenous people of Africa, and please leave your iPhone and laptop at home, that's not "indigenous". Idiots...
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dirtbag
climber
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"Your man," huh?
Why is he "your man"?
Are you proud of the fact "your man" wanted to enslave people?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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I think bluey and Columbus are from the same tribe Dirty...Columbus is my man because his name is on my steel bike frame...OS
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Columbus day just isn't a big deal. So what, did you know all know that the Aztecs killed people and that the Mayans were super mean and grumpy all the time? It's way easier to blame the victim because in the end what were the Natives wearing?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Columbus day just isn't a big deal. So what, did you know all know that the Aztecs killed people and that the Mayans were super mean and grumpy all the time? It's way easier to blame the victim because in the end what were the Natives wearing?
All that 'natives treating other natives with savagery' is not to be discussed amongst the politically correct crowd. And we cannot also discuss what the Spanish did to Central and South America.
Let's just focus on those mean Christian white males. They are the root of all evil, not muslims or narco-terrorists that happen to be brown and driven only by greed or the will to kill those they disagree with.
Maybe we should see what happens to the world when the US retreats from global affairs, completely. No more bombs, no more aid, the US just walks away. Have a nice day....
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dirtbag
climber
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And there you have it. The resentful, white male, pissed because his boat is being rocked.
Of course indigenous people could be barbaric too.
But why honor any barbarian?
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MisterE
Gym climber
Bishop, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 13, 2014 - 09:08am PT
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Bump for The Day!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 13, 2014 - 09:11am PT
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Happy Columbus Day, my paesanos!
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mouse from merced
Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
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Oct 13, 2014 - 09:20am PT
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I fail to see how this thread survived.
We support and condone bigotry and hatred here on ST.
Home of Super Tolerance.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 12:00pm PT
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Happy whatever day
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Oct 12, 2015 - 12:21pm PT
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America sucks! Italian explorers suck!
Native-americans rock! They created the most prosperous and efficient country in the world. Hug an Indian today. (If you're in the Gay Area,Ca. that does not mean Indians from India, you racist).
Indians are so awesome...
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c wilmot
climber
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Oct 12, 2015 - 12:34pm PT
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Its odd people hold resentment over what happened 500 years ago. Its odder still that many want to hate people in this day and age for the race they were born into over what happened 500 years ago.
If you want to hate on something hate on western disease which killed up to %90 of natives before they ever saw a white man
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skcreidc
Social climber
SD, CA
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Oct 12, 2015 - 01:05pm PT
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Come on, you all know this is the real story of Columbus discovery of America. Here it is in the original spanish.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Oct 12, 2015 - 01:10pm PT
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Europeans didn't discover America. Native Americans did. Europeans invaded the continent and systematically destroyed the native cultures, considering them to be godless savages. They used this to justify slaughtering them and breaking every treaty they ever signed with them. They marched them off to reservations so they could claim the land they lived on for 1,000's of years. Proud.
Did Native Americans fight amongst themselves? Sure they did. Just like Europeans, Asians, Aficans and every other human race. Doesn't justify what our ancestors did to them. Is America a great country? Sure it is, but that doesn't justify what we did to get here. You can still be proud of your country and acknowledge the mistakes we made. Not acknowledging them dooms you to repeating them, and creates a dangerous mindset that some people are superior to other people.
Celebrating the fact that white europeans finally showed up somewhere is super lame.
Oh, BTW, Spanish are european caucasians, in case you didn't know that.
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