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Soulsurfer
Trad climber
San Diego, Ca
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Good luck and keep us posted. Yea $20,000 is pretty tough to achieve unless you leave out septic, & maybe not pour a concrete slab. I was shooting for under $50k not including lot price. We will also be off the grid with solar and a generator. We are building a 1400sq' cabin on the Eastside of Cochise Stronghold. We are right by middlemarch rd so it takes about 20 min or so to drive over to the west side.
I've been up to the north shore where you're building about 10 yrs ago. It holds a special place in my MN wife's heart. Keep at it dude.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
the crowd MUST BE MOCKED...Mocked I tell you.
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I am eyeballing 5-20 acres up by L. Superior in N. Minnesota.
Glad you're thinking screened in area.
BIG bugs up thar!
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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But if it catches fire, you better watch out!
Wall Street Journal has brought to our attention that plastered straw bale walls have been proven, now, to be a fire- safe envelope for both residential and commercial buildings. Engineer and straw bale advocate Bruce King recently paid for an insurance-required test of fire resistance of straw bale walls, whereby "workers fired up a super-hot gas furnace next to a wall stuffed with straw in hopes of calming skittish insurers, bankers and building inspectors who have been reluctant to embrace big buildings insulated with bales of dried grasses". The test wall satisfactorily withstood over two hours of 1,700-degree heat and the following hose-down.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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cool thread!
any ideas on a low cost alternative building material (as compared to concrete) for a walkout basement?
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MisterE
Social climber
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Nice, Soulsurfer!
Totally jealous - love The Stronghold.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Hobo Man, you mentioned that Wisconsin law prohibits an owner from doing
his own plumbing? Are you kidding me? Are you sure? If you take out the
permits how are they going to know who does the work? Like the inspector's
gonna stand there and watch him?
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Norwegian
Trad climber
Placerville, California
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hobo,
in addition to your liberal cavity insulation,
wrap the interior of all perimeter surfaces (walls / 2nd floor rafters)
with a radiant barrier.
put physics to work, on the cheap.
big results!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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how bout recycled wood,used alot on my 1400 sqft chesapeake,built for under 80k
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steveA
Trad climber
bedford,massachusetts
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Hobo,
I had my doubts on your original goal of spending 20K.
All the State Codes tend to lock you in to unavoidable cost unless you can get away from a building inspector.
I couldn't where I live.
The Septic, foundation and excavation alone cost me over 60K; and that was 5 years ago.
I cut all the lumber and beams off my timber lot, and the 2800 sq.ft. house still cost me around $300K; but it is a beautiful home.
Good luck with your project.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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@Mountaindog. I spent quite a few summers in New Mexico working up at REACH one of those Reynolds recycled material homes .
They are incredibly labor-intensive to build and not as cost-effective as you would think. Interesting period in my life. Should have
bought land out on the mesa when it was $1000.00 an acre DOH!
Healyje: MrE's parents built a beautiful straw-bale home in Washington. I'll try to dig out some pictures.
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Branscomb
Trad climber
Lander, WY
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We built our straw bale house, 1250 sq ft, for 40,000$ including subcontracting the excavation, foundation, electrical and plumbing. We also had the trusses prefabed as they are so big, to contain two upstairs rooms and hired a crane to help install them.
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karodrinker
Trad climber
San Jose, CA
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consider steel shipping containers
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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My house is SIP (Structural Insulated Panels) it's basically OSB (Oriented Strand Board) sandwiching foam insulation. It's not cheap but if you could get it off craigslist it wouldn't be too bad. It's amazing how well it maintains a comfortable temp with no energy use. The R value is like R48.
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MisterE
Social climber
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^^ I have always like the combination of the structural integrity and insulation value of the SIP panels. The recycled chipboard element of the OSB is nice, as well.
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Yeah, look into shipping containers. There are so VERY cool homes being built with these for VERY little money. IMHO, they also look really cool if done right.
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hobo_dan
Social climber
Minnesota
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2012 - 10:17pm PT
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The immediate plan is to frame up the worlds biggest Sauna: 12 X 16. Weather looks iffy for Saturday and it will be cold as snot on Sunday.
I'll try and put some photos up.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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Those well and septic laws are completely bogus and really piss me off.
If someone wants to sh1t in the woods, why not let them? If someone wants to harvest rainwater why not?
Sutpid bureaucrats.
they are designed to protect stupid rednecks that sh#t where they drink....or groundwater just below the surface where the septic system is installed directly in the water and the gradient is towards the neighbors house so they drink your sh#t.
while the earth is one of the best bioreactors sometimes there can be too much sh#t.
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