Stonemasters, Who Was Really The Best?

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Tobia

Social climber
GA
Mar 25, 2010 - 10:30pm PT

Don't forget these guys!
Abercrombie

Trad climber
Ca
Mar 25, 2010 - 11:23pm PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 25, 2010 - 11:50pm PT
I built a stone wall to essentially make a level back yard in our house in Leverett, MA, something like 8' tall (at its highest) and 30' long with a 5' thick base... no mortar, just laid rock...

Basically worked on it from April through November, not a lot of climbing that year...


here is Debbie standing next to it:

and on top:

lots of work.
illusiondweller

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Mar 26, 2010 - 02:18am PT
Earth

126,040,825,612 Acres

196,938,790 Square Miles

Relative Sizes

Earth is 12,742 kilometers (7,900 miles) in diameter.

Jupiter is 142,802 kilometers (88,736 miles) in diameter

The Sun is 1,391,000 kilometers (862,400 miles) in diameter.

Artcturus is 34,079,500 kilometers (21,128,800 miles) in diameter.

Antares is 970,370,000 kilometers (603,680,000 miles) in diameter.

Antares is 15,007,943,291,139 Square Miles.




Jupiter is 11.0 times the diameter of Earth.

Jupiter has 17 known moons and these numbers are always changing.

Its year is 11.86 (basically 12) Earth years long.

Its day is (incredibly) 9 hours 55 minutes 30 seconds.




The Sun is known in astronomical circles as Sol.

The Sun's mass is about 333,000 times Earth's mass. An object at the Sun's surface would weigh 28 times as much as it does on Earth's surface!

A 200 pound man would weigh 5600 pounds on the Sun's surface!

The Sun is 1,391,000 kilometers (862,400 miles) in diameter.




Arcturus, or Alpha Boötis, is located about 36.7 light-years from Sol. It is the brightest star of Constellation Boötes, the Herdsman or Bear Driver, forming his left foot.

The diameter of Arcturus is 24.5 time that of our sun!




ANTARES (Alpha Scorpii). A brilliant jewel set within the Milky Way, Antares guides us to one of the great constellations of the sky, the Zodiac's Scorpius (or Scorpio), the celestial scorpion, one of the few constellations that actually looks like what it represents

Its great distance of 600 light years reveals that it is truly luminous, to the eye over 10,000 times brighter than the Sun.

It is so big that astronomers can easily detect and measure the size of its apparent disk, which gives an even bigger radius of 3.8 AU, three-fourths the size of the orbit of Jupiter

In a class called red supergiant, Antares is about 700 times the diameter of our own Sun and 15 times more massive.




Approximate size of Antares!

Huge!!!





And scientist say this all came from a random "Big Bang", which resulted in a system of unfathomable proportions that operates with such precision and order? You've got to be kidding right?





survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2010 - 09:24am PT
Nice job Ed!!

I have built rock walls too, but not any that nice.

OK, you're on the list....
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Mar 26, 2010 - 11:35am PT
Gary, with all due respect man, your statement:

And scientist say this all came from a random "Big Bang", which resulted in a system of unfathomable proportions that operates with such precision and order? You've got to be kidding right?

indicates a gross failure of imagination on your part, and a lack of understanding of physical principles. Yet your acceptance of an alternative hypothesis, that some entity designed and created all of this by some way which we cannot understand is at least equally incredible.

Both hypotheses, by the way, are supported by the empirical evidence. The scientific hypothesis is built "from the ground up" and provides the possibility of new knowledge, and new understanding.

The creation hypothesis is "from the top down" and posits, by construction, the universe as it is, but it does not lead to new knowledge, it only explains things once we "see" them.

paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Mar 26, 2010 - 01:42pm PT
Best of the stonemasters?

Michelangelo, the divine M.

Pieta, David, Moses... nobody's done it better.

Did you know he had glitter and lightening bolts carefully drawn on his shoes?
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 26, 2010 - 02:29pm PT
thanks Ed. I've not read the contrast you made phrased in such a respectful yet clear manner.

Nice wall. Did the fill also include a lot of stone for drainage? Curious as to how you calculated the potential effect of soil swelling on your wall.
tarek

climber
berkeley
Mar 26, 2010 - 02:45pm PT
Romans. Baalbek, Lebanon.

This large unused stone is ~20m long, from the quarry they used:

Joints:

Columns ~20m high:
jstan

climber
Mar 26, 2010 - 02:55pm PT
You probably already know this, but archeologists were curious as to how the Greeks built the Parthenon using no drawings.

Until they looked at the backs of the stones and found straightlines and drawings chiseled on the back.
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Mar 26, 2010 - 03:53pm PT
Is that Michelangelo channeling Lynn Hill 600 years early?
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2010 - 12:28pm PT
I've been on this part of the Great Wall at Simitai.
100 miles? north of Bejing
We did a long hike on the wall, far from the touron trap at Bejing.
Very impressive!


More great wall.



Take that Tucker!! HA!
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2010 - 02:05pm PT
Our very own, beloved, Tucker.




By the way, where is Heaven on Earth, Wadi Rum?
survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 30, 2010 - 02:21pm PT
Your response is noted.

The high court and the Department Of Stonemaster judges will take it under consideration....

juss sayin'

survival

Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 28, 2010 - 04:14pm PT
nutjob

Trad climber
Berkeley, CA
Oct 28, 2010 - 05:35pm PT
Locker, these are for you:







There's more where these came from. I wish I made it to Khajuraho when I was within half a day's train ride away:
http://www.shunya.net/Pictures/NorthIndia/Khajuraho/Khajuraho.htm
BooDawg

Social climber
Polynesian Paradise
Oct 29, 2010 - 06:27pm PT
Musta been HARD, keeping their hands on their work...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Oct 29, 2010 - 09:56pm PT
I clicked on Nutjob's link and there among the naughty stone nudes, was a Meg Whiman ad.
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 29, 2010 - 10:03pm PT
hey there all... say, i am really enjoying all this stone stuff here...

wonder if i can find anything interesting to share... not sure... :))

willl come back and check all this out more... when i can...
thanks so very much... neat pics...


say, mojede... never knew such a tower stood, as to your shared picture and notation... another interresting bit, shared...


thanks all...
so many neat things to wonder about, here...
:)
neebee

Social climber
calif/texas
Oct 29, 2010 - 10:13pm PT
hey there, say, survival and all....

well, hardly masters... but ed's neat wall, got me wanting to share some of these "dry walls" here's a starter link, for now:

http://www.jboyweb.com/drystonewall/examples.html

just loveeeeeeee stones, rock, or whatever...
thanks for the neat thread here...
:)
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