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philo
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Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 27, 2013 - 04:29pm PT
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 27, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
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I don't recall the gender(s) of researchers who made that discovery, but believe the names of researchers was included in the media reports. So one might be able to easily find out.
One thing to mention is that the Obama campaign recently launched an interesting organization, "Organizing for Action" - link: http://www.barackobama.com/news/entry/welcome-to-organizing-for-action(I have not viewed the link, but wanted to provide some reference point).
This seems to me to have great potential for aiding individuals and grassroots organizations who seek to affect change(not necessarily gender-related, of course).
Could become a powerful aid in helping people bring change and get viewpoints heard beyond what we know often have(send a form letter to your congressman type thing).
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Big Mike
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BC
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Jan 27, 2013 - 04:33pm PT
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Just to be clear, I don't approve of underage models either. Not having seen the pics though, I have no basis to form an opinion on them.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
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A figure I respect a great deal is Catherine MacKinnon. I took a class on Feminism at UCLA and she was one of the figures we read. She hits the nail on the head the closest in my opinion and delves into the real issues such as power and male standards.
MacKinnon discussess the sameness/difference theory of sex equality, its dominance in shaping sex discrimination law and policy, and its flaws (discussed below). The sameness/difference theory is used to frame women’s rights under the law in terms of their sameness to men (e.g. deserving equal pay) or their difference from men (e.g. right of maternity leave).
(hence sex equality and how to make sense of the issue "woman" is framed within the backdrop of the MALE STANDARD)
and...
"Having power means, among other things, that when someone says, 'this is how it is,' it is taken as being that way. . . . Powerlessness means that when you say 'this is how it is,' it is not taken as being that way.-CMac
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 27, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
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Geez, you wimmen already got the purse strings. Now you're gonna take over
the front lines. When the hell ya gonna be happy?
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:05pm PT
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Big Mike,
I don't view things in black and white. Even though I really hate bullies and there was a whole lot of bullying going on.. I also don't believe in burning those very people at the stake.
It's also not important for "everyone" to see what happened and take up arms in a mass agreement. No one needs a Parisian Mob to correct the situation. That would only make things worse and be even more mindless. What is important is for the people causing the drama to understand and make amends.
We are adults so we can learn, make an effort to correct past grievances, forgive and grow/move on. Plus no one here has to like each other, but despite this simple fact, we should all respect and be considerate.
The problem was the lack of respect and consideration. They know who they are... They have the power to make right. In the end it really is that simple and the rest of us should stay out of the way.
No one wins, but at least we can salvage a bit from this wreckage. That little bit that can be salvaged is important. I wonder if they will be brave enough to take it on and do the right thing. If not, well... An old Greek saying is that "we create our own hells, the devil simply watches."
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
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Is a trained professional Dip-Sh#t that much better than an amateur one?
Who cares? she has a rack that puts me into a mesmerized boobcoma.
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patrick compton
Trad climber
van
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
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finally, this thread is getting serious
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
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I think the bOObs thread hit a nerve or two because it embodies that kind of male spirit that goes back to primeval roots, which is the spirit of "I'm going to enjoy your body and look at it whether you like it or not." And posting pictures of beautiful women and their boobs satisfies that male impulse and spirit.
The compulsion to post these pictures is probably also a reflection of sexual repression because of all the societal norms and rules in place, men have to walk on their tiptoes in fear of being accused of sexual harassment or assault. And when you can freely post a pic of a beautiful woman and her boobs on a public website, it goes with the whole "I dont give a sh#t, I'm going to be a horny devil and get away with it" mindset. It is sort of an anarchist mentality. A symbolic rape, doing something against anothers wishes. Posting that picture, seeing how far I can take it, etc. which mimics sexual initiation and the pursuit of sex acts.It can also be fueled by a man's mandatory sexual conformity; unfulfilled fantasies, unsatisfactory sex lives with their significant other, etc. In short, the act of posting those pictures of boobs imitates the act of sex; to "act on", to "own", to "affirm", to show others that "I can and will do this." etc. etc. etc.
I think sex, from the biological history perspective, is something women were forced to learn to enjoy, whether they liked it or not. And now it has evolved socially as something women "enjoy."
ALL of it is psychology.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:20pm PT
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bvb...
When you go to the fair grounds... Do you get lost staring at the balloons?
How about when you see two cantaloupes? Does the word GOOGLE leave you dumbfounded?
Dear Sir, how do you survive with this condition?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:26pm PT
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I think the bOObs thread hit a nerve or two because it embodies that kind of male spirit that goes back to primeval roots, which is the spirit of "I'm going to enjoy your body and look at it whether you like it or not. ^^^Oh horse shit!
The compulsion to post these pictures is probably also a reflection of sexual repression ^^^ Oh and double dipshit!
It was a reaction to the objectification of the bodies of 20 slaughtered children.
Surround your self with all the Freshman College Psychbabble you want.
Create what ever scenario you deem fitting of your narrative and damn the reality.
If you could see a time line of posting you would see a clear correlation of Boob posts to Gun Posts.
It was never intended to be an exercise in puriant misogyny. It sux it devolved as all ST threads do. But get over it and get over yourself.
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:32pm PT
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Churls gone wild.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:35pm PT
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I'm going to go play with my vibrator now, bvb.
oops, I meant to say brb!
LOL
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
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Oh and double dipshit!
I'm talking about the bOObs thread in general and all the pics posted of wholesome grown women and their large boobs!, in no way was I isolating the case of the underage chicks!!!
now brb!!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:37pm PT
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PTC is not helping her Cause. Good thing she's not Real.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:52pm PT
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I can see this is goin' nowhere FAST.
Peace. Out.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 05:53pm PT
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I know too many woman that like to be looked at. Seek it, dress for it, desire it.
I don't view them as victims.
Also keep in mind... The world is stranger than fiction, one's logic, morals and the rest does not really work out in this reality in a predictable manner.
I also don't think all the men enjoying the show are perverted, misogamist, male chauvinist, etc. etc. If that is the case... (Looking at Bill.) I'm in trouble.
In old days ankles made men wild, now it's boobs. Seriously, whatever...
What IS wrong are the verbal attacks that were suggesting gang rape... Again WTF was that? Plus those pictures, yadda, yadda, yadda. I've already said it all, hate repeating myself.
I bet if that didn't happen we will still have a boob thread until Big Blue and the cut and paste jokes got it banned. The stuff I am use to from you guys that even though it's tasteless. It's overall harmless.
Locker, you let me down man. Seriously... I had my money on you.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 06:43pm PT
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Werner,
The problem is SAR hired the wrong Girl. You needed this gal.
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