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canyoncat
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SoCal
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
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Oh for pity's sake. Is it too much to ask for those who have all these personal issues that have required years of therapy (and made "significant gains") to keep their sorry ass problems to themselves, and stop trying to push them upon women in general? It isn't all about YOU. While we're about it, could men please stop trying to "speak up for" the women who've run off whining and crying, saying they've been intimidated. They should speak for themselves. Oh, I forgot, they're too damn weak.
Women, if you've been intimidated stop running. Stop whining. Stop crying and sniveling. Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. It is NOT responsible for burqhas. Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.
In short, harden the f*ck up already.
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Tarbuster
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right here, right now
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:05pm PT
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There's probably a kernel here, something like "don't get between someone and their pain".
Work it out people!
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
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Oh for pity's sake. Is it too much to ask for those who have all these personal issues that have required years of therapy (and made "significant gains") to keep their sorry ass problems to themselves, and stop trying to push them upon women in general? It isn't all about YOU. While we're about it, could men please stop trying to "speak up for" the women who've run off whining and crying, saying they've been intimidated. They should speak for themselves. Oh, I forgot, they're too damn weak.
Women, if you've been intimidated stop running. Stop whining. Stop crying and sniveling. Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. It is NOT responsible for burqhas. Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.
In short, harden the f*ck up already.
this is exactly the problem. Women being thrown up against the "male standard". The "male standard" is not a male standard, it is treated as THE standard.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Canyoncat
Dude, Stop where you are. Your digging yourself into a grave. Don't ever tell a woman over the age of twelve that she is whining, sniveling, etc. EVEN IF SHE IS YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT... If you do, you will become a target for all the wrongs of the world. You will find yourself in a special hell that only a woman can create. She and all her family and friends will NEVER forgive you.
Ways to deal when a woman who is feeling sensitive.
Rule one... Nod your head.
Rule two... Tell her something positive.
Rule three... Either agree, support or "here's a smart one for you..." SHUT UP.
That's it. Just ask any married man who has lasted ten years or more... This is the only way to survive. (Yes, I am advising you like a sister and I am only going to do this once. After this, you are on your own.)
Locker,
I think she is just sharing a point of view. It's not about her or I, it's about being aware of others and why they might feel threatened. I think it's a valid point even though I personally don't share it.
Plus Locker, you Know I don't play the victim card. Confused, upset, yes. A victim... Nah, I've hurt myself and the only way one can overcome hurt is by taking control over what is the possible. I can't control others, but I sure as heck can control my reaction to them, how I set myself up, live, etc. Life is stranger than fiction, that's for sure.
AFS
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:26pm PT
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Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. .....Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.
In THESE post-Boobs thread threads, the problem has not been about men liking boobs at all! Why do some continue to insist(and you, Canyoncat insist in the above) that is the discussion we are having?
WHY should we shut our mouths because YOU don't like what is coming out of them. Take your OWN advice(not Canyoncat specifically) and "deal." But since your invective does seemed aimed at me:
 I don't have any sorry ass problems. "Sorry" that the image of an 8 year old coming to her 9 year old sister, and asking her to decide the fate of her life is a "sorry ass" problem in your eyes.
It was after some consideration that I decided to create that imagery(which is factual and an understated version, in case one misinterperates the word "imagery". "Sorry" it is offensive to your senses. Take your own advice and - just deal. Women like discussing things instead of ignoring them.
To say I pushed anything on women in general is bullshit - especially when I made an effort to clarify that point specifically! That viewpoint is your projection - not what is actually going on.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
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Hey Happie,
Just give them a beer and walk away. Some guys are hopeless. Seriously not worth the effort. At least they are fun to watch as they fumble around through life wondering about obvious things.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:49pm PT
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hey wasn't it a dude who started this thread whining in the first place?
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 01:51pm PT
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Ways to deal when a woman who is feeling sensitive.
Rule one... Nod your head.
Rule two... Tell her something positive.
Rule three... Either agree, support or "here's a smart one for you..." SHUT UP.
Don't those rules apply only to a dude who is trying to pursue the act or actively f*#king a chick?
as a side note: one of the top 3 or 4 rules of psychotherapy is do not assume, followed closely by the other golden rule: do not judge.
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Anastasia
climber
InLOVEwithAris.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
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Nah...
It's about limiting the drama in your life. But I believe despite hearing so many claims that men don't like drama... You Guys Really LOVE drama. ST is full of it, full of assumptions, personal attacks and gossip, lots of b.s.
AFS
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
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Anastasia, I will walk away when I choose to walk away, but thanks for your concern.
Know when to hold up, fold up, walk away, run....If the series of posts were rounds in a card game, I am simply holding up my hand, at this point, when I post.
The time to fold, was when the Boobs thread was removed(which does not seem to have had anything to do with women voicing an opinion on the thread, as was suggested earlier). Instead of folding, a few men, who liked boobs, were unable to stop whining, crying and sniveling and just deal.
They didn't and here we are.
Why not tell those I was communicating with to just go get a beer and walk away? That Happiegrrl is "hopeless"(I don;t mean that negatively, but that I would not change my viewpoint)?
That would probably be the action more likely to stop the discourse. I am a Taurus: bull-headed. They stop posting invectives - there will be no reason to continue the conversation. I wouldn't consider it any sort of a coup, personally or for women in general, if that happened. But it would be a win for the Supertopo site.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
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Eff that. I say what I wish, when I wish & how I goddam wish.
If you don't like it, that's on you.
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:12pm PT
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Quack :)
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:16pm PT
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I like eating popcorn.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
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Women, if you've been intimidated stop running. Stop whining. Stop crying and sniveling. Just deal. Men like boobs. That isn't a bad thing. It is NOT responsible for burqhas. Get real. The problems of the world are not due to naked breasts on display.
In short, harden the f*ck up already.
This is an excellent paraphrase of the Riot Grrrl perspective/manifesto/POV. Especially the "if you've been intimidated stop running" part. Nothing scares a guy more than a no-nonsense-won't-take-sh#t-woman.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:18pm PT
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Why not tell those I was communicating with to just go get a beer and walk away?
yea, or just go get laid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL
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Michelle
Trad climber
Toshi's Station, picking up power converters.
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:19pm PT
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I think Locker has a lot of psych training as well.
Wait, I thought locker WAS the training?
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
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Anastasia, I will walk away when I choose to walk away, but thanks for your concern.
Know when to hold up, fold up, walk away, run....If the series of posts were rounds in a card game, I am simply holding up my hand, at this point, when I post.
The time to fold, was when the Boobs thread was removed(which does not seem to have had anything to do with women voicing an opinion on the thread, as was suggested earlier). Instead of folding, a few men, who liked boobs, were unable to stop whining, crying and sniveling and just deal.
They didn't and here we are.
Why not tell those I was communicating with to just go get a beer and walk away? That Happiegrrl is "hopeless"(I don;t mean that negatively, but that I would not change my viewpoint)?
That would probably be the action more likely to stop the discourse. I am a Taurus: bull-headed. They stop posting invectives - there will be no reason to continue the conversation. I wouldn't consider it any sort of a coup, personally or for women in general, if that happened. But it would be a win for the Supertopo site.
the sad reality is, despite all this huffing and puffing trying to blow the house down, at the end of the day guys will still want to have their hands on a nice pair of round breasts and women will still be hypersexualized and boys will continue to be boys.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
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Nothing scares a guy more than a no-nonsense-won't-take-sh#t-woman.
yea women can't really get away with that type of behavior freely or with a free conscience mainly because at the end of the day, this type of female personality is not attractive to men.
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part-time communist
Mountain climber
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Jan 27, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
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people started throwing personality disorders into the mix, so I thought I'd give people a reality check when it comes to the field and the concept of "diagnosis" or classification of mental illness.
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