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rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 7, 2017 - 01:47pm PT
The Hispanics work harder than all the lazy canadians...Except for Jim Brennan..
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Oct 7, 2017 - 09:35pm PT
Republicans largely abandon their platform of fiscal restraint

Cutting spending to balance the budget was almost religion to Republicans for much of the past eight years, when they frequently clashed with then-President Obama about government spending and federal programs. Now, the GOP is charging forward with plans to significantly increase military spending and to cut taxes in a way that could add more than $1.5 trillion to the government’s debt over 10 years.


So all that screaming and hollering about the deficit and debt were total BS.

The GOP has now abandoned all pretense about caring about the debt. No more talk about "balanced budgets" "tearing up the credit card" even the debt limit.

You can understand a philosophy, even if one disagrees with it, but it is the blatant hypocrisy that should be making rank and file conservatives really angry.

And it's apparently going to be financed on the back of the middle class.

I don't know if I can stand all this winning......
Degaine

climber
Oct 8, 2017 - 04:12am PT
c wilmot wrote:
10b - US workers should not have to compete for jobs with illegals. It's one of many factors lowering the wages of people who are already living lives on the margins. And this is not somehow limited to white people as you mistakenly assume.

You still don't get it

It is you who still doesn't get it, and I'm surprised that this still needs explaining.

1) Crack own on employers, especially agribusiness, and illegal immigration will come to a grinding halt.
Agribusiness heavily and purposely recruits illegal aliens. To halt the flow of illegal Latino immigrants north (we're currently experiencing a period of net loss of immigrants from Mexico), start prosecuting Purdue, ConAgra, etc. That, however, seems unlikely, due to the pressure these companies are able to exert on Congress. If the US government starting cracking down on agribusiness, these companies in return would push for sensible legislation to allow their current workforce to be hired legally.


2) Automation
This has already been brought up but is worth repeating.

The US was the number 1 manufacturing country in terms of output until a few years ago, is now only second to China, and I believe will probably take back the top spot from China in a few years. The loss of jobs in the manufacturing sector is not due to illegal immigration, but to automation. Now most people working in a factory in the US have at least a Master's in some form of enigineering in order to handle the complex software and robotics used in most manufacturing facilities.
c wilmot

climber
Oct 8, 2017 - 05:41am PT
Degaine- I already pointed out the negative effects that illegals and automation have had on those living lives on the margins.

These economically stressed people had two choices:

One candidate promised to "MAGA", while getting rid of illegals, bringing back manufacturing, and re negotiating trade deals that have been unfavorable to them

The other candidate promised open borders, more illegals, globalization, and more trade deals that are not benificial to them

Who are these gullible disaffected voters going to vote for???


While yes- what needs to be done is a crackdown on employers who hire illegals. Unfortuently neither party has any interest in doing that as there is too much money to be made

Which is part of the reason we choose a figurehead to pretend they run the country.


Contractor- illegals have the same workplace rights as citizens in California. You live in a sanctuary state bro! they have made it amazingly easy to hire illegals. You just have to pay them minimum wage and provide the same workplace protections. If you are not taking advantage of that you are losing a lot of money needlessly. I hear they "hang out" at home depot

Check it out:

https://www.dir.ca.gov/letf/english_worker_mobile.pdf



Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Oct 8, 2017 - 06:40am PT
he other candidate promised open borders, more illegals,

prove it, credible sources, enough of your delusional bs
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Oct 8, 2017 - 08:50am PT
It's only a matter of time before the affects of global warming set in and the prime temperate agriculture belt shifts to Canada. America's heartland will become a scorching desert and Canada will be forced to build a wall to keep out American rapist and criminals.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Oct 8, 2017 - 09:31am PT
^^^how do you say bad hombre in Quebec?
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Oct 8, 2017 - 09:53am PT
Nice!

Future Canadian first world problems- Redneck Mericans with leaf blowers...eh?
Contractor

Boulder climber
CA
Oct 8, 2017 - 04:09pm PT
#13
crankster

Trad climber
No. Tahoe
Oct 8, 2017 - 06:01pm PT
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 8, 2017 - 06:58pm PT
Trump is an incompetent blowhard...Sad watching some of his pathetic supporters falling for his used car sale pitch...How's the more affordable , better health care plan of his working for you...LMAO
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Oct 8, 2017 - 07:23pm PT
you lie

prove it
drF

Trad climber
usa
Oct 8, 2017 - 07:26pm PT
RJ is such a yuuuge dummy. A real disgrace to humanity

Nothing has changed with the law.

It's going down the drain.

It will be apparent soon how fuked alot of people will be financially b/c of it(The ACA).

But that's what lib-doosh-RJ's want. They just want to cry about Trump.

No solutions, Just Cali-style bitching and confusion. RJC***ts!!

So Sour
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 8, 2017 - 07:28pm PT
Cosmic! Best wishes for your back getting better & your life (and attitude) improving.

You won't get even those wishes from the Republicans, who are taking care of their rich contributors, while folks like you, continue to be their voter base.

I'm sorry that Trump didn't do better by you, as yet.

On the bright-side, Las Vegas is some of the best "next-year" country on earth, so maybe next year, the Republicans will decide to help you.

I'll see what I can do for you, from my position as a member of Trump's Presidential Advisory Board & a lifetime NRA supporter.


edit! & drF, I won't bother to put in a good word for you.

drF

Trad climber
usa
Oct 8, 2017 - 07:52pm PT
Ha!

Fritz is such a confused bitter OLD pill.

He chooses to use the Vegas tragedy to highlight his angry little-man reality

He hates so much that anything positive is a defeat

What a lowly Fritzee turd. P..U
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 8, 2017 - 07:55pm PT
drf...The bump stock on your butt plug jammed...? Lighten up...
drF

Trad climber
usa
Oct 8, 2017 - 08:14pm PT
RJ...you're deflecting again

I'm just an amused observer.

You are the struggling clown.

Keep at it.

This place is your life.

Pretty wild ...and sad
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Oct 8, 2017 - 08:36pm PT
I'm with RJ about drf & his butt plug.

drf...The bump stock on your butt plug jammed...? Lighten up...


drf is the classic 13 year old humorless obese, pimply Russian ST troll, that I recall no-one on ST has met or knows --------for good reason.

RJ & Fritz are known to many on ST as real humans, with a penchant for humor.

Hey drf?

Do you have anyone on ST that knows who the hell you "really" are?
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Oct 8, 2017 - 09:19pm PT
Had a conversation with a Korean War veteran, tonight. He said trump was a "sonofabitch"
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Oct 8, 2017 - 09:23pm PT
drF..." disgrace to humanity " I take that as a compliment...rj
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