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TripL7
Trad climber
san diego
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No I don't say it's wrong, on the contrary. I would be doing the same thing if I didn't have a relationship with JC. And furthermore, I think the more/longer they investigate(seek scientific answers/proof)the more their going to learn about the Creator. I would actually like to see it increase tenfold for instance. Maybe even one area, let's say the study of some aspect of evolution. To speed up the search for truth on that level. Just my opinion.
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Jingy
Social climber
Nowhere
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Founding Fathers Quotes
Ben Franklin - "Lighthouses are more useful than churches."
John Adams - "This would be the best of all possible worlds if there were no religion in it!"
Thomas Jefferson - "Christianity is the most perverted system that ever shone on man."
makes sense to me...
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WBraun
climber
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Sure it make senses to you since you're only a gross materialist monkey.
When one comes up to the platform of human being, beyond the monkey Darwinism, only then can one begin to understand what God is.
Monkeys just swing around in the forest of materialism .....
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Seamstress
Trad climber
Yacolt, WA
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Hope you found your answer.
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Captain...or Skully
Big Wall climber
Transporter Room 2
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I'll be your monkey, Huckleberry.
Or some such.
;-)
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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now listen up, fellas. i tried to make this thread go away. i posted a let's-kill-the-god-thread thread about 3 weeks ago and it actually ended god thread posting for about 24 hours. i think the heavies got discombobulated. sorta like a jeddi mind trick. but it didn't last. i don't know who broke rank, but they all trickled back here.
maybe i made the mistake of naming the god thread heavies, and i won't do that now. i won't even start a separate thread. but you have to consider one thing. these people are co-dependents. the hardcore christians and the hardcore atheists. it's the little shop of metaphysicial horrors, sadists and masochists banging each other's heads til they're bloody and enjoying every minute of it. it helps with self-image. be a hero.
now, you will say, why am i here? good question. i can't pretend to be above anyone else. i have interest in the crossroads of metaphysics and science and i guess i keep hoping the discussion might get a little better, but it doesn't seem to happen. so, until it does, let's do our best to be disruptive and sadistic to the god thread itself. might as well enjoy that, no?
by the way, you'll notice a big gap in when this thread was initiated a couple years ago by the late and great jeff batten to when it was revived earlier this year. what happened?
well, if you missed it, pate owned up to his role in this and apologized profusely. nothing better to do one day than go digging in subterrenia and he revives the thread and reopens pandora's box. he was quite contrite and has even offered to buy me a six-pack. i'll take the beer, but i have no power to forgive sins.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Pate referring us all to a Christian thread?!
Now I know we've been trolled!
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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No one seriously believes that because of this thread either theists or
atheists will convert to the other side.
After some 20K on the Republicans are Wrong ALL the Time thread, the same
people on each side of the isle are still going to vote the same way.
So why do I participate on this thread?
Because I like to practice my typing skills.
Because a lot of posts and particular people are just plain fun to read.
Because it is challenging to learn from smart people.
Because it it maddening, and therefore entertaining, to experience the psychology
of mindsets so different from your own.
Because the adrenaline from disagreements makes me forget how much my back hurts all the time.
Because I have led a decadent and sinful life and Gobee and Trip are my penance.
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Tony Bird
climber
Northridge, CA
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norton, dr. f--none of those are good reasons. you guys are both BDSM and you know it.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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from wiki:
because I did not know what it meant.
BDSM
is a type of roleplay or lifestyle choice between two or more individuals who use their experiences of pain and power to create sexual tension, pleasure, and release. The compound acronym, BDSM, is derived from the terms bondage and discipline (B&D, B/D, or BD), dominance and submission (D&s, D/s, or Ds), sadism and masochism (S&M, S/M, or SM).[1]
BDSM includes a wide spectrum of activities, forms of interpersonal relationships, and distinct subcultures. Many of these experiences are still considered to fall out of conventional sexual activities and human relationships.
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WBraun
climber
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Dr F -- "the power of their own mind, and how easy it is to believe things that are completely wrong"
This applies exactly to you too, along with all the other ranters against the existence of God in this thread .....
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Well, we'll all know one day won't we?
Not going to be fun then to say, "We told you so."
I won't get any joy from that. Probably bring lots of tears to our eyes, those who believe.
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WBraun
climber
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The gross materialist scientist has all the baggage.
He thinks he's the body.
That is first and most fatal mistake.
Thus you carry all your excess baggage's in your heads and continuously tax your brains swimming and drowning in the sea of nescience along with your deluded stupor of thinking in your puffed up minds that you and only you thru your defective scientific methods are superior ......
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luggi
Trad climber
from the backseat of Jake& Elwood Blues car
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I will play....Dr. F....
The Bible as the Unique word of God
1)The Bible claims to be (2 Timothy 3:16, 1 Timothy 5:18; 2nd Peter 3:15, 16; 2nd Peter 1:21; 1st Thessalonians 5:27ef. Deuterronmony 31:11; 29; 1-2.
2. The Bible is a reliable collections of books, historically accurate, meticulously preserved and archaeologically verified.
3. In this reliable book, we have reference to Jesus Christ, to claims that he made and to claims others made about him.
4. This reliable book bears witness to Jesus as God the Son and the only way to the Father.
It is the historicity of the Bible that has everything else beat..yes even Krishna...there for for example attempts to excavate a huge battle that occurred to verify what has been written...to this date only the field that the battle is said to have occurred is there...nothing else.
Historicity is the key...the Bible is much more accurately depicted then lets say Sophocles. Scholars believe that that they have collected all or most of his plays in some form....1000 years after they were written. There are over 5000 different versions of the Bible found...all of them are 99.5 % the same....
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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So Get This-
Christians unite! Stop using the term "Jehovah" or "God Jehovah."
I resent the term "God Jehovah," it was forced into the religious lexicon by the advent of meta-religious / post-religious / cross-religious studies. Let's go back to the good old term "God" because that's what He (the God of Moses) is. Continue to use the term "god" or a name (e.g., Aphrodite, Marduk, Ishtar) to describe the fictitious made-up ones.
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Compare: A Donini post on a different thread, different subject:
Climbers unite! Stop using the term "Trad climbin."
I resent the term "trad climbing," it was forced into the climbing lexicon by the advent of "sport climbing." Lets go back to the good old term "climbing," because that's what it is. Continue to use the term "sport climbing" to describe that activity.
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Goes to show: (a) Words matter. The language we use matters. Naturally, we like to protect the language that describes our interests. (b) It is an ideomachy (a battle of ideas) out there, always, relentless, underway, whether overt or under the surface. On guard.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Next time don't hold back, tell him what you really think.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Well said, fellas.
I take it Go-B posted, couldn't stand the heat, and so deleted? Let me guess, bible verses.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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