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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Oct 20, 2013 - 09:52am PT
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I like the fact that Patagonia refers to their sponsored climbers, skiiers et al as "ambassadors" rather than "atheletes." Thus the emphasis is on reflecting the companies values rather than on the athleticisim or audaciousness of the climb itself.
Sponsored climbers are usually young and ambitious and the competition for sponsorship is fierce. Companies have an obligation to coach and mentor them regarding their values. If the company is Red Bull, that's one thing, but most companies in the outdoor business purport to highly value the natural world.
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billygoat
climber
Pees on beard to seek mates.
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Oct 20, 2013 - 10:03am PT
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Well said, Jim.
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Deekaid
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 10:52am PT
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threats of violence are over the top. That is when I go with the other side and say
it is "just a tree "
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mechrist
Gym climber
South of Heaven
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Oct 20, 2013 - 11:13am PT
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Threats of violence are always lame. Almost as lame as cutting ancient treeS for a photo op.
La Sportiva also refers to their sponsored yahoos as "ambassadors."
http://www.sportiva.com/
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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Oct 20, 2013 - 11:16am PT
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yes i wax
tmi
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:05pm PT
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My goals are to keep raising the bar for hard climbing, podium at a world cup, become a better surfer, live a eco-friendly life, go to college, cherish my family, friends, and animals, keep traveling, and enjoy new experiences http://www.ethanpringle.com
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Deekaid
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
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why not post the sponsors here so people don't have to go to their website? I personally am not going to the blog or website of either of these guys
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:09pm PT
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I have a feeling those two rockstars never hang out at a given area more than a few days, then it's on to the next hot new crag to leave their mark. Incidents like these are sad, but certainly not surprising given the degree of narcissism and entitlement in the upper echelon of the sport these days. The wilderness ethic seems to have slowly evaporated, and lines of distinction from gym to outdoors blurred.
Nice elucidation.
Joe Kinder, why don't you make this easy on yourself and start talking.
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FRUMY
Trad climber
Bishop,CA
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
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I'm not sure what make me sickest - the apologist or the cutters.
These were not just trees - they were living ancient artifacts.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:24pm PT
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What Frumy said.^^^
These are not "just trees" to many people. Asshole climbers are a dime a dozen. Old-growth trees are sacred living objects to a lot of us.
Composing my letter to the sponsors now.
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Deekaid
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:29pm PT
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yes sir...thank you sir
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Deekaid
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:32pm PT
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nice delete deedeestyle
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Deekaid
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 12:49pm PT
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I do not as a rule engage in debate in situations where people cannot be held immediately accountable for their words. I make comments and give my opinion. but for the record...
I got out of bed by rolling to my side and using my arm to help push myself up while swinging my legs to the floor. I learned that years ago while working for a chiropractor and have used it ever since.
I didn't ask for links just one sentence listing their sponsors and I would have taken it from there.
I thrive on my own fear
no I do not want to see one second of their spray
thank you
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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Oct 20, 2013 - 01:04pm PT
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If people have a problem with these guys' actions, it'd be better if they contacted them directly instead of talking sh#t on the internet or bad mouthing their sponsors.
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The Larry
climber
Moab, UT
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Oct 20, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
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I haven't seen anybody bad mouths their sponsors. The point is to contact them and let them know what lame sh#t their "ambassadors" are doing.
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 01:08pm PT
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Cutting down trees is not new at all to gain access to a climb.
There's been a few trees cut down in Yosemite also.
One time I told the potential culprit not do it.
The tree was blocking in front of a stupid boulder problem.
Fell on deaf ears as far as that went. He cut it down.
Two other times I was able to do routes with trees close enough to the climb where one could stem back to it or lean back onto it without ever touching the tree.
Both those trees have been cut down also.
This so called Pringle tree incident is not looking good either.
It's so much easier to walk away or do it with the tree in the way.
Those trees are so beautiful next to the rock and enhance each other.
Why do we need to do this kind of damage anyways?
Just plain stupid .....
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powderdan
Social climber
mammoth lakes
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Oct 20, 2013 - 01:14pm PT
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Such an act illustrates a great divide in the "outdoor community". Such disregard for others subsequent experience demonstrates a complete disconnect from both nature and community.
These guys deserve whatever fate has in store for them. Total bonehead manuver.
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jstan
climber
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Oct 20, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
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Can someone assemble and post a list of sponsors for each and include the sponsor's mailing address?
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philo
Trad climber
Is that light the end of the tunnel or a train?
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Oct 20, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
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^^^ ncrockclimber +1
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