What do YOU believe "we" owe at this point?

If you think that some goofball, of any race, that can't speak proper English and wears his pants down around his upper-thighs, while blasting hip-hop into his ears while you're trying to explain the job to him is "good help," .....

Does anyone here on ST still believe he would be a good President???...

are you seriously arguing that the u.s.a., as a structural entity, has done enough in the last 62 years to repair the mistakes made during its 178 yrs of structural racism and the in total 428 yrs of european descended but north american based structural racism that it was founded on and continued?

or, as it appears in some instances, are you arguing that no reparations should have been made, and that the repealing of federal laws in 1954 was all that was required?

or are you just trying to argue that you personally, as a white individual who had nothing to do directly with that past, should not be implicated in the guilt associated with those decisions made long before your time?

i get the latter, but as it appears you're arguing one or both of the former, i am left quite astounded.

I personally believe that we owe a smile to people we pass on the streets, and if their skin color is noticed to be varied from our own, that's like a hand held out to acknowledge a fellow human being.

I personally believe we owe it to ourselves to become educated on what effects years of poverty and oppression can have on a person - EVEN when the poverty and oppression has ceased.

You gave a story of a woman who was abusive to her child as an example of "them," without even thinking of writing that you know "not all" behave that way or that you have seen "white people do the same." If you don't know that, or you haven't seen that, then you need to get out more, sir. You saw an example of bad parenting, and the actors just happened to be of African descent.

Perhaps you lack in the capacity to judge character in your hiring, or perhaps you are not offering an incentive that attracts people with a more refined set of social and business skills.

When I hired people for my dog-walking service, there were guidelines which were clearly provided

Believe it or not, there ARE jobs where none of those things you mentioned would be detrimental to a job.

You are racist; I feel sorry for you.

It is a sad way to go about the daily chores of living.

Would you have not done those nasty things if you were from the generation that did ?

Would you have not done those nasty things if you were from the generation that did ?

Gotta be some work by everybody.

And this is why I keep asking: What's the plan? More of the same?

I'm asking a QUESTION, which has not yet been answered straightforwardly, which is: When is enough enough? How MUCH does your "camp" feel that people of our generation OWE now?

And I am sick to DEATH of being called a racist when I most certainly am not.

If, as you say, you keep being called a racist, you might consider that what you are doing is adopting the rhetoric and mannerisms of racists.

I will note that I cannot recall being called a racist in the last 30 years, even by my black friends. I would bet that many white guys here have the same experience.

WHY is your experience different?

It is good that you are asking questions (although on the wrong thread)

"If my Answers frighten you Vincent then you should cease asking scary questions"

That was mighty white of you to say so, Richard.