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Oplopanax
Mountain climber
The Deep Woods
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Jul 31, 2012 - 01:48pm PT
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Look at the honeycombing on the sleeves of that jacket. That'd cost you $200 nowadays :D
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 31, 2012 - 09:19pm PT
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I dunno, when I first saw it, "Rebel without a cause" sprung immediately to mind.... Thanks for that Tricouni!
Yosemite Pinnacle Left Side had a somewhat predictable outcome yesterday... We got our asses kicked, and gained a real appreciation of the talents of our elders.
Here's a photo that might bring back few memories for anyone that's ever been in the mouth of this beast.
This photo is taken from Hamie's third belay? Hamie or Tricouni, do you guys remember if you went inside of the first chockstone? or outside? Inside would be an insane squeeze!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jul 31, 2012 - 10:04pm PT
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What I would like to know is how & if those boys Free climbed from the cedar to the top of the first chockstone BITD or if it was a hammer toss affair??! Layback? Left shoulder in? Right shoulder? Size 17 feet? Them was some tough OW/squeeze moves!
Maybe cigarettes are the key.........
Edit- & I bet u guys didn't have sissy filters on your fags either.
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thekidcormier
Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
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Jul 31, 2012 - 10:34pm PT
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Hamish free climbed it, duh.
Ryan care to tell us why you it to lead two pitches in a row... And how did the first pitch go?
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jul 31, 2012 - 10:36pm PT
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I'm at work right now so will get into the details later but it definitely didn't go as planned which would have been a gracious onsight while spitting on BKs bolt as I cruised past it laughing. At least the laughing part happened. Cool route.
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thekidcormier
Gym climber
squamish, b.c.
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Jul 31, 2012 - 10:58pm PT
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Really hoping your boss doesn't check supertopoians, cuz if so you're ginna be in sh#t...
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jul 31, 2012 - 11:51pm PT
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You guys are doing it all wrong. The best way to climb YP is to wait until someone has a rope hanging from above, and just jug right past it.
Of course, to be real you have to use the right jugs...
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2012 - 12:15am PT
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Funny ghost. Thing is we were actually trying to figure out how these gents managed to free this sucker in thier mountain boots!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Here is Tricouni's account of the first ascent of the left side of Yosemite Pinnacle, in 1965. From The B.C.M.C. newsletter. I did the climb in 2003, and wrote up an article contrasting and commenting on our climb with that in 1965, but it'd more than double the length of this.
The fine cedars on the route have sadly now fallen to orc work. Where are those darn Ents when you need them, anyway?
YOSEMITE PINNACLE – LEFT SIDE
Unlike most cities, Vancouver is fortunate in having within easy reach a huge chunk of steep, firm rock - the Chief. Inevitably, rock climbing is growing at an accelerating pace, and will become increasingly more important in the life of the BCMC and its members.
Rock climbing at Squamish is different from most other climbing areas. Lack of holds and cracks limit the possible route lines and chimneys are common; face-climbing is rare. Surprisingly enough, only about twenty of the sixty or so routes in the area are predominantly artificial aid. The rest range from easy class 4 to downright desperate upper fifth class. Climbing on the Chief looks dangerous, but is every bit as safe as ordinary mountaineering. Objective hazards such as rock fall and weather are greatly reduced; subjective dangers such as overconfidence can be lessened through proper technique and an appreciation of one's limits. Falls are not unknown, but only one accident has led to hospitalization, and that happened on a boulder, twenty feet off the ground.
A recent "Summit" article to the contrary, most climbing around Squamish is done by local climbers. Indeed, Vancouver climbers have established almost all of the many fine medium-length routes, many of which have free climbing of a high order. One of the more difficult and spectacular of these is the Yosemite Pinnacle (left side) Route, first climbed in October by Mavis McCuaig, Hamish Mutch and myself. This is not a pinnacle in the usual sense of the word, but rather a huge, detached flake lying against the wall. There are a number of these on the Chief; this one is located just left of the popular South Gully.
We hadn't really expected the climb to be very difficult. However...a short rope toss led to the base of the left side of the flake. Hamish, just back from the endless miles of Yosemite cracks, led sixty feet of strenuous chimney and jam crack (class 5.7) to reach a good belay tree. I joined him, sweating, then led the only class six pitch on the climb; fifty feet of straightforward nailing. Mavis joined Hamish, who moved up to my rather dubious belay. The next pitch looked really bad. After ascertaining that it would go, we rappelled out (it was getting late), leaving our ropes behind.
Next day found us prussiking up the ropes to our respective stations. The next lead was classical: a ten inch wide jam-crack shimney affair, overhanging more than enough. Hamish somehow moaned and groaned and struggled his way up the first twenty feet of the squeeze-chimney (class 5.8) and then, gasping like a fish out of water, pulled himself onto the first chockstone. After forty feet, slightly easier (but not much), we heard his welcome "off belay". With a liberal expenditure of energy I managed to claw my way to Hamish's belay. He was standing on a chockstone deep in the chimney, anchored to a little tree that must have had a hard life, for it can never have seen the sun.
My lead went horizontally out to the edge of the chimney, then up over an awkward (5.7) chockstone onto the first decent ledge on the climb. The others soon joined me, glad to be out of the confines of the vertiginous chimney. It was in the bag now; we romped up the fifth and last lead, a 5.4 jam crack, to the top of the pinnacle.
There was enough comfortable room on top for all three of us - a bit of a surprise. We rested awhile, counting the inevitable tourists who stopped for a look, and waving to friends on the road. Then the descent; we untangled the ropes and made several long rappels down the chimney to the forests below. We coiled the ropes, sorted hardware, and walked slowly to the car, well pleased with our first ascent.
Hamish had spent much of the preceding year climbing, and quite a lot of time in Yosemite, climbing with Bridwell. Clearly a formative experience. I suspect, though, that they had larger pitons than 3/4" - they nailed the crack leading to the start of the offwidth/squeeze, which is now a lovely hand crack. More in the 1.5" range, maybe even 2". Hopefully Hamie and Tricouni can clarify this, and the footwear they used.
When we did it, I went left side in, and stayed outside all the blocks. (Can't imagine any adult thin enough to go inside.) Right side in didn't work at all, not that I have a lot of the needed technique, so left side it was, notwithstanding a wonky shoulder.
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Relic
Social climber
Vancouver, BC
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Ryan, when I followed it on TR, I went left side in like as soon as I could possibly wedge my shoulder in. Past BK's bolt, there are features on the arete you can milk with your outside foot as you squeeze up. A little higher you can get fully inside and then you start worrying about how to surmount the chockstone. I found that to be much harder than I thought it would be.
It's all about getting as much of your body inside the crack, ASAP.
I think I had to turn around or something to mount the chockstone, maybe thats where I hung on the rope to reset my body
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2012 - 12:10pm PT
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Is that what the FA did? Hmm.. No time this morining but i got a couple pics done last night.. Here are a few teasers..
Yosemite Pinnacle Left Side
Kieran leads P1
Ryand does some gardening...
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Hey Anders when u guys did it last was there a lot of shrubbery near the cedar on the ramp up right & into the squeeze? I would love to see what you wrote after your last ascent. Please post up, who cares if it is a long account. See below for an example of a long winded account of a relatively short climb. Seems that Big Mike may be able to supplement with photos & since I've been outed I may as well tell the story as I recall.
Warning: extensive beta spray down. If u aren't into it then just keep on scrollin'
On the last pitch: i think the first time i got spat out trying to chimney up above the bolt left side in, i had a hard time getting inside & when I did I had a pretty good chicken wing/arm bar but couldn't get a footjam or a heel toe or kneejam. The only foot was a really high right that popped & i got flicked outta there, it seemed really tough. After that I tried a bunch of different ways to see if there was a trick & the easiest for me to get near the chockstone was to layback a few moves & get a high right backstep on a good foot & twist into a high left kneebar, puuuuull left out of the layback & into the chimney, cup the aręte with the right & reach way up with the left, I was tickling the bottom of the chockstone & could kinda get this horrible undercling & almost reach the lip but couldn't take any weight off with the arms to move the kneebar up. Damn, it was super strenuous too. I was so close but so far. Finally, not wanting to fall on the manky, fixed rope tied around the chockstone again I grabbed it to reach up to the top of it. A tall f'er could use that kneebar beta & probably reach it.
Which you are right BTW Relic, the chockstone has a really awkward mantel. The hardest part of the mantel was dealing with all the stupid gear I brought, Including a big purple eggplant , & a bright blue poop tube. Luckily i had the foresight to leave the big green watermelon @ the belay. All of these were making things really inconvenient & all of which would prove to be totally useless for this particular challenge. Once on top it wasnt too bad to the top but actually pretty good chimney back & foot climbing with some cool features. Nothing compared to the difficulty of that first 10 feet which I'm sure is 5.8 if you know how to make it look that way which I definitely don't. Yet.
As for the first pitch Luke, it was pretty good & not what you would expect. There is the one flare @ the start, I put my left shoulder into the wall & right foot up behind on a good hold on the aręte & u can lean out & grab some decent holds that get better until u get to a massive jug! So Big Mike had me all psyched for that part & he said how he whipped on the piton which was kind of comforting. "Big Mike approved!" He was yelling at me when I clipped it. Haha. So when I get to the jug I thought it would be over but it's a 20m steep, burly corner with a bunch of flarey, dirty, kinda rattly finger locks with shitty, flakey feet about 8m above the jug. I took a decent whipper here on a gray c4 made in china & a few hangs around that crux section. After that you finally get a gold camalot jam or 2 then its 10m of steep climbing on decent finger/hand jams with good gear that felt somewhat strenuous to place. Another crux at the top reaching up to some good holds before moving left to the belay. A pretty good pitch as well actually that would be a proud onsight for a 5.10+ leader. After the 3 of us put some chalk on it I think its probably much better & more people should go do it, even just that first pitch on its own would be a worthy outing. The second pitch was fun too & except for that first 15 feet is much easier than most of the climbing on the first pitch. Which I felt to be pretty sustained.
I had a real fun day climbing with Big Mike & Kieran as well as joining Relic for some bouldering after. Not sure why I led both Luke but I guess I kind of volunteered somehow? Either way it was a good challenge. Kudos to Hamie & tricouni for their efforts BITD as well as a big thanks to Bruce Kay for cleaning it because I never would have climbed that thing or really given it much thought & many of us would likely know not much about it including its history & signifigance.if it looked like it did 2 years ago. It is likely a very different climb now than it was back then. Bruce did an awesome job on that whole face & put some serious work in. With a little more traffic it could be a classic burlfest that is somewhat unique to Squamish. I'd get back on it, I know Luke has to go back up there to get his toque at some point since none of us remembered to grab it, sorry dude! As for the bolt, I don't really have an opinion on it. It is at a perfect stance that is in an otherwise difficult to protect area, I had a good cam right off the belay & a red c3 about 6 feet under the bolt, falling on it would have sucked for sure as u would have bounced off a ledge. Alternatively I guess u could just clip a fixed knot on the manky chockstone leash above which I ended up doing anyways but it seemed pretty old & gross. I think you guys should all head up there & give it a go before deciding if it should be there or not, YPLS is a worthy challenge for any Squamish climber IMO.
Let's hear your story Anders!
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 1, 2012 - 10:01pm PT
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Ryand has been outed! ;) Sorry dude, you knew it was gonna happen :) Props on your leads the other day. You said you wanted to lead it :) Perhaps you only meant the squeeze pitch ;) Sorry about the unnecessary beta on the #5 but we didn't have a #4 camalot last time.
Setting up for the p2 lower crux.
Crazy stem beta on the upper burl corner
It didn't pay off for long though....
Kids, if you want to survive don't follow Ryans beta. This is meat and potatoes climbing and foot jams are the only thing that only thing that kept me on there!
More photos soon.
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Scrubber
climber
Straight outta Squampton
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Yahrrrr!!! More photos of actual squeeze battle are requested. The only time I did the route about 12 years ago I was so baffled about how to get into the thing that I eventually threw a big cam up over the chockstone and hauled myself up. (In the spirit of hammer tosses of yore) The scars have faded enough that I want a rematch!
K
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Maybe the solution is to sink the offending bolt, not bother with a semi-fixed VG#9, and simply have a reliable fixed thingie hanging from the chockstone. It could have a series of loops, with grades attached. For example, if you clip the bottom loop, right as you start the squeeze, the tag would say "lightweight". If you clip only the top loop, i.e. could have just slung the rock yourself, then the tag would be "rock star - as good as climbers in 1965". Maybe even with a solar-powered GoPro, to keep everyone honest.
When we did it, we belayed from a solid down-hanging cedar, about 3 m below the start of the squeeze - at the top of the nice 5.10- hand jam/stemming corner. I think the orc murdered the tree and placed a bolt belay there, but it seems unnecessary. It makes more sense to belay at the stance at the base of the corner, about 10 m down, and do it in a pitch from there. So the first pitch would be a bit shorter, and the second a bit longer.
The first 'real' pitch seemed to us low 5.10, right through to the top of the nice corner.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 2, 2012 - 07:00pm PT
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Thanks for the bump MH, What about remove the bolt, but leave the hole so you can place a removable bolt if you choose? :) the fixed sling is actually kind of a nuisance, it's there so you use it.
ok got a few more done last night, I know you guys want to see the wide, but I got a couple more good ones of p2 which I agree with Ryan is worth going up there for. You could always rap after on BK's nice new anchors.. just bring a tagline to make it to the milk road traverse anchors.
Ryan got his foot jams sorted out eventually :)
Reeaching for the anchor.
Getting started on the wide p3
Kieran Brownie Photo
Nice lens flare Kieran!
Brownie Photo
More later... Climbing now...
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Invalid without photos of the evil Bruce's bolt, nawmean? Hey, if I can get up it without the bolt, so can anyone.
Mike's first photo shows well why the belay should be 12 m lower, where there's a stance.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Topic Author's Reply - Aug 3, 2012 - 02:42pm PT
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A job well done bruce. P2 is equal to the first milk run corner in my opinion. It's dry allright. Go hit er up! I would like to lead p2 again now, so gimme a call if you want a partner.
Anders, there is two pictures of the bolt! :) sorry the last set is taking me so long but i went and simuled the chief last night instead. Hopefully i'll have some time tonight.
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TheSoloClimber
Trad climber
Vancouver
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Also posted on Squamish Climbing.
Let's see...... Last weekend I climbed New Life with a friend, all onsight, swinging leads. Great climb for those who are able, again a couple tricky moves for people who are shorter. Lots of overhanging burliness, particularly the .10c third pitch, which I didn't realize how much past vertical it was until I was halfway up it with nothing but air below. One person I've talked to thinks that it's substantially sandbagged.
My only real gripe with the route was that the fifth and final pitch was a little dirty. I'm not sure if that's from a lack of traffic, or because the developers were starting to get lazy, but either way, nice job on the line.
This past Friday I went up a little earlier by myself. I had plans for the Grand the next day, so didn't want to do anything that was physically too hard. I figured I'd give Snake a go, as I had climbed it about a month previous and found it enjoyable. I did the first couple pitches easily. There was a party at the base of the main corner, who I hadn't been able to see from the ground, so I waited for them to both reach the next set of anchors. The crux made me think a little on this pitch, but still not much of an issue.
That party let me pass them at the belay, and I continued on up towards the crux traverse. This is where it starts to get thin, for those of you who haven't climbed it, and even roped up, gear is minimal. This was also where, for the first time, I've ever felt truly insecure on a solo. Every move was just pure concentration on making my feet stick, and the only moment of relief I had was grabbing the downward flake just before the traverse.
After that slabby scary bit, the traverse didn't feel quite as difficult, although still insecure. From the ledge there, I was able to finish the rest off easily.
I continued up Memorial and down Boomstick, then I ran up Diedre. I hadn't climbed Skywalker before, so I went and did that as well (which was quite enjoyable) before heading home.
POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR GRAND WALL - READ WITH RISK OF BETA
The next day was my big trip up the Grand. I had found a friend who was willing to let me lead every pitch, so I could go for my redpoint. My first time up it last year, the only pitch I led was the Pillar, and I spent so much time worrying about having enough gear that I tired myself out and didn't get it clean. I got the rest of the pitches clean on second except for the top of the Sword and Perry's.
My second time up it is in Lurch's TR, and it was too early in the season for me to be strong enough. I didn't lead the Sword clean, aided Perry's the entire way, and aided the majority of the Sail Flake.
This round, it was go time. I had a lot of unfinished business, and it was time to clean house. I wanted to go right from the ground, so I led up Apron Strings easily. No pump by the end of the first pitch. I linked both pitches of Merci Me, and then led the traverse over to the Pillar for my first time. I think it's easier on lead than second.
Now sh*t gets real. I went for the Pillar straight away, starting with a green, laybacking up to where I could get a rest and put a red in, then straight up. I ran it out about twenty feet, threw a cam in that was completely useless, but gave me confidence, then ran it out another fifteen feet before putting a good gold in. Where it got wider, I places both my blues, went into the desperation layback, grabbed the jug. Victory!
Scampered up the rest, brought up my second. Bitches been pissing in behind the Pillar btw.....
After a short break, I started up the Sword. I had really only been hoping on getting these two pitches clean, so this was goal 2/2. My problem last time I led this was a fixed nut right at the crux. I couldn't clip it without grabbing the draw after, so I figured I would just put two pieces in a little lower and go for it. It worked, and I was able to make the mantle no problem.
The next crux for me before had been stepping out onto the face, but this time I just clipped the bolt and sent it without even thinking. Ran it out up the face crack before putting a couple pieces back in the corner, taking a moment, and going for it. Grabbed the chain at the top, clipped it, success!
Now I was happy no matter what happened, but still determined. Up the bolt ladder, brought up my second. Using my beta, he was able to get the Sword's crux clean for the first time.
Perry's: I was worried about this one, cause I hadn't even been able to second it clean before. I also had failed to bring enough draws for the entire pitch. No matter, I started up, skipping the first bolt on the traverse over to the start of the layback. Clipped the next bolt, started laybacking, clipped the second, skipped one, clipped and skipped again. Now here is the crux, where it slopes in and you really have to get in and reach to find a positive hold. I was pumped out of my mind.
I clipped the bolt and went for it. The feet had gotten a little better, and somehow my body positioning allowed me to sneak my knee into the crack. Using this kneebar, I was able to reposition my hands just enough to let me stand up into the chimney rest.
Who does that!?!? Who gets a kneebar on Perry's Layback!?!? I was so stoked, I was just screaming, WHAT THE f**k JUST HAPPENED?!?!?
Hit the anchors, brought up my second, we highfived, sang, danced. It was a joyous moment for me, and I wasn't even done yet. However, there was nothing that could stop me now. I raced through the Flats, took a moment, then went for the Sail Flake. I hadn't realized that the feet were as good as they are, so I was able to protect it adequately without getting pumped, then hauled to the top.
Woohoo! First time leading every pitch, first time getting everything clean, and perfectly too! No feet slipping, nothing going wrong. It was the perfect day. We even beat the sun!
I don't think I have a reason to ever climb again.....
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