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John M

climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 11:21am PT
trying to build a single, viable global civilization

and it will never happen as long as people disrespect others beliefs.
John M

climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 11:22am PT
(1) "imaginary fictitious ideas" Now is that bigotry or criticism? bigotry or fact?

responding to edits:

You can not prove a negative. Ie.. you can not prove that God does not exist. Hence.. it is not a fact.

Edit: Thus.. "no god" is a belief. Which makes it your religion.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 11:53am PT
by your own proud admission, Milkdrool, we could look it up
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
thx for the noon chuckles, milkdud.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 12:54pm PT
"killing religion"

Yeah, right O, milkboy, you can always score points with THAT one in a religious country with religious sympathizers.

21st century thought: Try replacing religion. By way of bringing new ideas and new understandings and new attitudes to beliefs and belief systems. That's what it's all about, Milk. Yes, the 21st century is powerful enough to do just that. In fact, it's already underway. Only the intellectually and culturally blind cannot see it. Change in belief is ongoing, every day now.

Go ahead, keep thinking in terms of your "killing religion". O'Reilly does too. Great way to score those points with the Old God faithful.
John M

climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 12:59pm PT
Change in belief is ongoing, every day now.

nothing new about that..
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 28, 2016 - 01:15pm PT
I can't resist, I guess I'm on a roll.

Bill Maher, critic or "bigot"?

[Click to View YouTube Video]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUc2bSQfKQs

Raheel Raza, yet another champion of reform Muslims, secular Muslims, liberal Muslims, who has appeared on Bill Maher in recent weeks.

Umpteen million Muslims in Muslim majority countries only want the chance to question their religion and, if it's what they want to do, leave it without risk of being hanged or hacked to death.

Bill Maher supports their cause. How about you?

.....

Now hddj's stance (last page) was...

"I know little of these things"

will this change, I wonder.

By the numbers...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSPvnFDDQHk


Keep the charge, Bill!
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 07:07am PT
Moose posted

People believe in unicorns, Santa Clause, reincarnation, and whatever they can imagine. So, because I don't believe in their creations it makes me a believer??? No, those things don't exist until proven otherwise. The same applies to the thousands of gods people believe in.

But, to most religious people faith/religion is something out of bounds. I can accept that. I don't want to insult people of faith. But, if a religion/belief has a negative impact on other people (anti femism, anti gay, kill the infidel) I will speak against that belief. Bill Maher is a comedian, so he exaggerates. And, like I said before, his religious guests were comfortable with him. He is no bigot.

You make Maher's error that the problem is the religion as opposed to the violence. To use your dismissive analogy, if I stated that unicorns had called upon me to destroy western civilization and I started quoting My Little Pony cartoons would you insist that belief in unicorns was a real danger?

Excusing Maher for exaggerating for comic effect is completely without merit when it comes to religion. I've watched his shows many times. He doesn't temper his message when he's not trying to be funny. He sometimes makes some decent points but they often get lost in the untempered and unapologetic condescension that he enjoys so frequently.

You don't have to believe in the existence of god to allow for the possibility of god. I see many atheists such as Maher making the same logical fallacies that they accuse religious people of making. John M is correct that you cannot prove a negative. That doesn't mean you should believe something in the absence of proof, but insisting that it doesn't exist without proof is equally as absurd and judging people for their belief (as Maher does) is by definition bigotry. Just because Maher makes it cool to do so doesn't change that.
WBraun

climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:49am PT
This IS such bullsh!t this Sam Harris and his babble.

Get rid of Lindsey Graham and John McCain and you'll solve 90% of the whole ISIS bullsh!t in Mideast and Ukraine.

These two criminal war hawks are masquerading as Americans but are truly just plain cowards.

These two criminals are responsible for so much damage to America with their covert criminal operations thru military, the corrupt military industrial complex, and thru criminal covert operations.

All these are quietly carried out at billions and billions of dollars spent by the American people unknowingly.

Obama can't stand these and the military hates them too.

You've been 0wned by these criminals ......
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 29, 2016 - 07:50am PT
You don't like Ladyboy Graham? What's not to like? lol
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 08:22am PT
There was a very interesting interview from On the Media last week with an French journalist who was a prisoner of Daesh for almost a year. He made some points about how Daesh and Al-Assad were in a symbiotic relationship as well as how building up the threat Daesh poses suits their narrative. Worth a listen.

In the wake of the Brussels attacks, European leaders said the entire continent is at war with ISIS. French journalist Nicolas Henin wrote in The Guardian, "If we adopt a militaristic, warlike vocabulary, there will be no way back from that. We will strengthen our enemies." And he should know. Henin was held hostage by ISIS for nearly a year in 2013.

He speaks with Brooke about his experiences in Syria (where he was held with Jim Foley, John Cantlie, and others), and what he sees as our deadly misperceptions of ISIS.

Henin is also the author of Jihad Academy: The Rise of Islamic State.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Mar 29, 2016 - 08:24am PT
10 buck say's Hillary will go BYE BYE!

She will be given the opportunity to do so quietly or go down hard by Comey. Watch! AND, her CLEARANCE will be pulled due to her inept operations of the bs basement server and multiple Security Breach" Violations of her unauthorized use of her "UNSECURED" personal Blackberry in the Mahogany Room and several other "SECURE" locations. She won't have a choice.

Comey won't let her get away with B.S...

HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 09:05am PT
Public sector unions just won a major victory at the Supreme Court.

A ruling in the teachers’ favor would have affected millions of government workers and weakened public-sector unions, which stood to lose fees from both workers who objected to the positions the unions take and those who simply chose not to join while benefiting from the unions’ efforts on their behalf.

Under California law, public employees who choose not to join unions must pay a “fair share service fee,” also known as an “agency fee,” typically equivalent to members’ dues. The fees, the law says, are meant to pay for collective bargaining activities, including “the cost of lobbying activities.” More than 20 states have similar laws.


And Trump's campaign manager was just arrested for the alleged assault of a Breitbart reporter.

Trump campaign manager Lewandowski charged with battery

Florida police have charged Donald Trump's campaign manager Corey Lewandowski with simple assault in connection with an incident earlier in the month involving a reporter.

Police in Jupiter, Florida, said Lewandowski surrendered Tuesday morning to face a misdemeanor charge of battery, NBC News reported. He is scheduled to appear before a judge on May 4.

A surveillance video released by the police appears to show Lewandowski grabbing Breitbart News reporter Michelle Field as she tried to ask Trump a question during a March 8 campaign event.

The police report stated: "Lewandowski grabbed (Michelle) Fields' left arm with his right hand causing her to turn and step back." Fields showed police her left forearm which "appeared to show a grabbing-type injury," according to the investigating officer.
"Mr. Lewandowski is absolutely innocent of this charge," Trump said in a statement. "He will enter a plea of not guilty and looks forward to his day in court. He is completely confident that he will be exonerated."

"He was not arrested," campaign communications manager Hope Hicks said.

Note that Trump's campaign is trying to say that we "wasn't arrested" because he turned himself in.
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 09:13am PT
Different folks, different strokes, eh Moose?

See ya on the slopes!
John M

climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 09:22am PT
So comedy is an excuse to promote hatred? Bill Maher is an egotistical pompous man who has a thin veneer of respectability which he calls comedy while he does the wink wink to his followers of hate. When I was a pissed off human I used to love him. When I got over being pissed off I saw through him. For political comedy give me Jon Stewart any day.

For moose...

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-28/newly-discovered-fossil-reveals-when-siberian-unicorns-last-roamed-the-earth









(wink).. LOL
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 11:26am PT
Looks like the Secret Service doesn't understand that more guns = more safety.

No Guns Allowed at Republican Convention, Secret Service Says

The Secret Service said it would forbid attendees to carry firearms at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland in July, neutralizing a debate that had put pressure on the candidates to take a side on the issue.

“Only authorized law enforcement personnel working in conjunction with the Secret Service for a particular event may carry a firearm inside of the protected site,” Kevin Dye, a spokesman for the agency, said in a statement Tuesday.

The debate over whether to permit guns at the Quicken Loans Arena in the second-largest city in Ohio flared in the past week after an online petition appeared on Change.org, taking issue with the arena’s anti-weapons policy in a state that allows “open carry” of firearms.

“This is a direct affront to the Second Amendment and puts all attendees at risk,” said the petition, which had gathered more than 50,000 signatures by Tuesday morning.



Just kidding. Obama is just plotting Donald Trump's assassination, obviously.
dirtbag

climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 11:51am PT
Looks like the Secret Service doesn't understand that more guns = more safety.

Meh, what would the secret service know about safety?
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 29, 2016 - 05:21pm PT
It makes sense that Ted Cruz will be on the banned Washington Madam's customer list.

D.C. Madam's Attorney Says Call Log Bombshell Could Upend 2016 Race

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-03-28/dc-madams-attorney-says-call-log-bombshell-could-upend-presidential-race

I always find it the most fun, when the most holy among us are found to be big-time sinners.
Norton

Social climber
Mar 29, 2016 - 05:27pm PT
Meh, what would the secret service know about safety?

yeah, and what would they know about guns?

how exactly is the secret service supposed to protect the political candidates at
a convention in which people are allowed to carry loaded handguns?

can I get a 14 year old to explain this?
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Topic Author's Reply - Mar 29, 2016 - 06:50pm PT
I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic, Norton.


Fritz posted
It makes sense that Ted Cruz will be on the banned Washington Madam's customer list.

Cruz isn't going to be the nominee anyway. It's a moot point.
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