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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Mar 11, 2016 - 09:22am PT
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Alright.! These guys will be wearing orange for a LONG time. I would bet that some of the armed guys in the earlier Nevada standoff are laying low. The next time they get pulled over, they will be taken into custody.
The constitution guarantees the right to assemble and freedom of speech. However, when you do it by pointing guns at cops, you had better expect to be in trouble. That is probably a felony, and we've all seen the pictures of that guy lying prone, looking through his scope at what I assume is feds. I bet that he sleeps poorly now.
I'm surprised that they haven't gone after more of the Nevada gang. Maybe because they got most of the ringleaders in Oregon. The Bundy's and that jerkoff Ryan Payne.
Anyway, I'm glad that they now reaping what they sowed. The northwest is full of militias, and they need to settle down. I remember the gun cult's last real act of violence: The Oklahoma City Bombing. I've said it many times here, but my wife was dropping our toddler son off at day care when the bomb went off 9 blocks south of them. It shattered windows at that distance.
Tim ain't available for interviews anymore. I wish that he hadn't been put to death, because we know that others were involved. Most people think that, anyway, and there is good evidence to support it. Hopefully Terry Nichols will eventually talk.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 11, 2016 - 09:26am PT
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You're not exactly up on current events are you?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Mar 11, 2016 - 10:08am PT
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Hopefully Terry Nichols will eventually talk.
He apparently already has. He's on whosarat.com's snitch list.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Mar 11, 2016 - 10:19am PT
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In that video what happened to the window right before he got out to commit suicide by cop?
And I agree Base - I've been disappointed in our government for not going after the Nevada criminals. Glad to see justice is being served.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Mar 11, 2016 - 10:22am PT
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It's good to see Progressives admit they're in favor of mass incarceration and police killing.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Mar 11, 2016 - 10:29am PT
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Escopeta posted I wonder what will happen to the officers that claimed they didn't fired their weapons, but in reality actually did fire them?*
Maybe their guns went off and they didn't notice? Lol
*citation needed
chaz posted It's good to see Progressives admit they're in favor of mass incarceration and police killing.
Let us know what you're talking about when you emerge from your k-hole delirium.
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John M
climber
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Mar 11, 2016 - 10:37am PT
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It's good to see Progressives admit they're in favor of mass incarceration and police killing.
If a lot of people do a crime, then a lot of people should go to jail. And as for cops killing someone, I am never for that unless it is absolutely necessary to protect others.
At no time in my history as a person have I ever been against cops being able to protect themselves, but shooting an unarmed person with their hands in the air, and shooting a man who is known to carry weapons and is reaching for his waist are two different things. Please try to understand this.
There are things cops have been doing that are just plain wrong, such as beating a person after they are cuffed. If you aren't against those kinds of things, then you are morally corrupt or morally bankrupt. And if you can't understand that it is these kinds of things that are putting people seemingly against cops, then either you haven't been paying attention, or you just chose to be belligerent, because I do believe that you are intelligent enough to figure this out.
When will you figure out that one can be against certain kinds of behavior that have gotten out of hand, while being for the police?
no one here wanted this man to die. But he was a fool and put himself and others in a dangerous situation and I can fully understand why the cops shot him.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Mar 11, 2016 - 10:38am PT
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HDDJ, there were two rounds fired by the FBI that weren't immediately divulged.
They should be investigated and held accountable.
That doesn't mean that the seditionists were right about anything.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 11, 2016 - 11:36am PT
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They should be investigated and held accountable.
That doesn't mean that the seditionists were right about anything.
Well, I guess they were right about one thing.....
Its also important to note that while its beyond reproach that a law enforcement officer would try to cover up the fact that he fired his weapon in the direction of a citizen, there were numerous other officers that were in on the cover-up.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Mar 11, 2016 - 11:57am PT
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http://www.npr.org/2016/03/11/470040310/rancher-cliven-bundy-refuses-to-enter-plea-in-federal-court?ft=nprml&f=3
Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy said he did not acknowledge federal authority, and did not enter a plea to 16 felony charges. Supporters rallied on his behalf and denounced the federal government.
DMT, this would not meet either of our definitions of a patriotic act.
You mentioned taking up arms.
Would them taking up arms against the US Gov't be a patriotic act, as they advocate that it is? I'd think not, either.
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Mar 11, 2016 - 03:07pm PT
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Its also important to note that while it beyond reproach that a law enforcement officer would try to cover up the fact that he fired his weapon in the direction of a citizen, there were numerous other officers that were in on the cover-up.
Citation?
How did we find out if they were in on the coverup?
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Mar 11, 2016 - 03:21pm PT
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Well, I guess they were right about one thing.....
Vague as ever, what the heck to you mean by this Escopeta?
Nothing like some good innuendo to make is seem like you know something.
Keep it up, we're totally fooled.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 11, 2016 - 03:39pm PT
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Who cares? These yahoos provoked an armed confrontation and paid the price. Now they want to whine about the accounting of the gunfire? Pfft it is like a lame defense attorney asking irrelevant questions to muddy the water. When you are busted and dead wrong, I guess that is all you can do. How many times do you think you can yell "shoot me" while you are armed before some obliges?
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Mar 11, 2016 - 04:04pm PT
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Escopeda said-Well, I guess they were right about one thing.....
Its also important to note that while it beyond reproach that a law enforcement officer would try to cover up the fact that he fired his weapon in the direction of a citizen, there were numerous other officers that were in on the cover-up.
Critical point diversion 101- Pose conjecture laden statements as fact...
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Mar 11, 2016 - 04:38pm PT
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The saddest part is that this deluded, wannabe cowboy hero had to drag a bunch of other idiots along for his suicide by cop martyrdom.
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Mar 11, 2016 - 05:19pm PT
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It's a good bet that the OSP would not be looking so very closely at the ballistics of every shot if someone hadn't suggested it might be worthwhile to do so.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Mar 11, 2016 - 05:22pm PT
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HHDJ writes:
"Let us know what you're talking about when you emerge from your k-hole delirium."
Werner was right. Simple sh#t goes right over your head.
Unlike Werner, I don't believe you're an idiot. I think you're missing the point on purpose. Because it was a simple post. And you're too smart to miss something so simple.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 11, 2016 - 05:26pm PT
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It's a good bet that the OSP would not be looking so very closely at the ballistics of every shot if someone hadn't suggested it might be worthwhile to do so.
Well yeah. There's that. Or maybe its because they found a f*#king bullet-hole in the roof of the truck.
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peladob
Mountain climber
Mason City, Iowa
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Mar 11, 2016 - 05:29pm PT
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Agents are not going to wait for a shootout to begin.
You stand still with your hands up or become target practice.
For starters, don't get involved in an issue that was mostly over in the 1970's just because you need a new venue to hold local law enforcement at bay and feel like a tough guy.
But yeah, you yell shoot me and reach at your coat it's suicide by cop.
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