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Larry Nelson
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Mar 26, 2016 - 09:14am PT
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WBraun posted:
Nope, it's within us ourselves since we created it thru rape of the planets resources to feed the illusinary high standard of living in the western industrialized nations
Everything in our own individual realities starts within. Striving to better ourselves first makes the world a better place.
The Muslim culture must fix itself. We are perceived as outsiders to those cultures. We must support the good people within those cultures as best we can.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Mar 26, 2016 - 09:53am PT
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When you use memes like Lois Lerner and Bill Ayers to use against Democrats it really demonstrates that you get your info from the Fox News Bubble world.
Bill Ayers says he wished he was buddies with Obama, but he wasn't.
Do you say both him and Obama are lying?
Lois Lerner was doing other things that she didn't want to expose
just because she took the fifth does that mean she was really targeting conservative groups?
She was appointed by W. Bush and voted Republican, so you are way off.
I heard she was investigating Chuck Grassley and it wasn't good, so was covering it up for the Damn Republicans. Lois Lerner is meaningless to any real debate, it's just another lame Right wing club to bash away with
and to insinuate that Karl Rove and the Koch Brothers should be able to funnel millions of dollars through not profits that are supposed to be Non-political is somehow good, and the IRS shouldn't be looking at them is pretty idiotic
The IRS should shut them down, but now they can't because of the right wing reactionary fools that supported Rove and his evil empire to use all the money they want TAX FREE to influence politics
What about the planned parenthood shooter, he did it because of his Christian beliefs,
The guy that killed a bunch of blacks, the killer of Dr. Tiller the baby killer, KKK in our police, our military uses Christian authority to kill, they have all kinds of Christian memes that they try and force feed the GIs
Do you even listen to the real News?
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 26, 2016 - 09:58am PT
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This map shows just how much of a landslide Mrs Clinton would beat Mr Trump by based upon current polls if the election were held today
Her margin of victory would be even greater than Obama's over both John McCain and Mitt Romney
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Mar 26, 2016 - 10:59am PT
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Craig,
Sometimes I wish I could be as certain in my beliefs as you are.
Unfortunately I harbor too much skepticism for that much faith.
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I don't have TV in my house, so no Fox News.
Don't listen to Limbaugh.
I do not defend the Republican party and their self destruction.
Free your mind and try a different tack.
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You have climbing accomplishments and a great cactus hobby.
Put this political BS in perspective
...it's just Hollywood for ugly people.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Mar 26, 2016 - 11:48am PT
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I'm the most skeptical person here
I have no faith in anything
I have understanding of ideas and facts
The right wing so called skepticism is really more of what real skeptics call denial
I was just exposing the truth about Lois and Mr. Ayers
and discussing Christian fundamentalism values
You seem to know about them because you brought up the subject
if you deny listening to right wing media,
then we have to ask, where did you get your info on them?
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dirtbag
climber
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Mar 26, 2016 - 02:47pm PT
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Yes, Larry, the spiel about Bill Ayers being his buddy was seriously overinflated by the right. It was part of the lefty/sharia/foreigner meme that millions of righties bought hook line and sinker.
Welcome back Werner!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2016 - 03:01pm PT
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Larry posted Put this political BS in perspective
...it's just Hollywood for ugly people.
It's not like the winners have any real power...right?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 26, 2016 - 03:08pm PT
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Werner is back!!! Woot!!!
HFCS posted So lets hear it... radical Islamic terrorism... radical Islamic terrorism... radical Islamic terrorism.
It's not surprising that you ran to a religious bigot like Maher for support.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Mar 27, 2016 - 12:10pm PT
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After conversations with my aunt, she just changed from registered Republican to a Bernie supporter when she figured out that the issues she cares about are what he will best represent.
She just changed her voter registration to Democrat.
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 27, 2016 - 12:30pm PT
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She just changed her voter registration to Democrat.
tell your aunt congratulations from all of us who believe what she believes
that her new Democratic party fully supports the rights of women to make their own decision with their own bodies with Republican men wanting to pass laws that force them to do what women do not want to do
that her new Democratic party is not afraid of everyone being encouraged and emboldened to vote, unlike Republicans who feverishly pass laws requiring 90 year olds who have voted for 70 years to now get new state ID's or not vote, unlike Republicans who are so afraid of non white people voting that they pass ID laws to stop them and limit the number and location of voting places in minority communities
unlike Republicans who pass laws that allow discrimination against people who prefer the same sex, just this week in the Carolinas
unlike Republicans who come right out and state that they not only oppose an increase in the minimum wage but even oppose a minimum wage
I could go on and on telling your aunt about her new political party but I have to go
to the guitar store and get some new strings......
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Mar 27, 2016 - 02:36pm PT
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let's be reminded of what the voters really voted for..
Norton B.S chart
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Norton
Social climber
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Mar 27, 2016 - 03:00pm PT
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Well pyro
If it is "bs" then exercise your powerful intellect and explain how the Dems
have been whopping your Repups by such large margins in the Presidential elections.
Huh?
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Brandon-
climber
The Granite State.
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Mar 27, 2016 - 05:30pm PT
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Pyro, Re; Your first map. Think of where the population density is, and maybe it'll make a little more sense to you.
Maybe, but I have my doubts.
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Mar 27, 2016 - 08:36pm PT
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Well pyro
If it is "bs" then exercise your powerful intellect and explain how the Dems
have been whopping your Repups by such large margins in the Presidential elections.
Huh?
NoryTON I work long hours would have responded much quicker you MAP is BOGUS!
Norton and his CREATE A MAP!
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2016 - 05:48am PT
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Pyro- Do you know that land mass is not the same as people, right? Deer can't vote.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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Mar 28, 2016 - 06:00am PT
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Mar 28, 2016 - 06:10am PT
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Soooo, Norton. How about it.
Pyro has called you out.
Your map that you posted. Let's have the truth, did you create it or was it copped off some news website as is?
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2016 - 06:31am PT
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According to Trump, America hasn't been great since 1900.
TRUMP: No if you really look at it, it was the turn of the [20th] century, that’s when we were a great, when we were really starting to go robust. But if you look back, it really was, there was a period of time when we were developing at the turn of the century which was a pretty wild time for this country and pretty wild in terms of building that machine, that machine was really based on entrepreneurship etc, etc. And then I would say, yeah, prior to, I would say during the 1940s and the late ‘40s and ‘50s we started getting, we were not pushed around, we were respected by everybody, we had just won a war, we were pretty much doing what we had to do, yeah around that period.
My friend Karyn on her most recent pregnancy and how she has decided to terminate it because the fetus has an incredibly rare and likely unsurvivable heart defect.
Coincidentally, today I read an article in The Washington Post about a law passed in Indiana that will not allow mothers like me to make this choice. What kind of world are we living in where we do not trust mothers to make the best choices for her family, her baby and herself? It has always been my belief that God and Science are deeply connected. God is in everything therefore God is in Science. I am so perplexed by people who point to their religion as the reason for creating these laws when it is so clear it is politics and deep misogyny. Our hearts are broken. We feel we are living in a nightmare. I have not slept since Wednesday. The idea that a woman in my country suffering the way I am suffering would not have access to care close to her home and support network is unacceptable. No one wants to make these choices. No one. This is not a negligent, unloving or flippant choice.This is one of the most heart wrenching moments of our life. I have had a second a trimester miscarriage. I know how awful I will feel physically ( not to mention emotionally, spiritually and psychologically) for weeks. My body will be in a postpartum state with no baby in my arms. My milk may come in. And I will walk around empty still looking visibly pregnant to the world.
I have always been pro-choice. I was raised in a pro-choice family. But I have thought much more about this law as it pertains to women collectively than to me. We must change the story of Abortion. Abortion is not just people ending their unwanted pregnancies. And this is why I am sharing such a personal private moment in my life. Because my personal is deeply political today.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 28, 2016 - 07:43am PT
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The Georgia governor just announced he would veto the "Religious Freedom" bill passed by the legislature. The fact that multiple multi-billion dollar businesses threatened to leave the state if he didn't might have had something to do with it.
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